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Old 04-10-2022, 08:55 AM  
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Working theory: 2 1sts means we can be patient with Ojabo.

Ojabo is a perfect fit for the Spags scheme, is he not?

But we can’t take a DE this year who we can’t play until Thanksgiving because we’re so thin at the position.

Unless we use our other 1st on a DE who can play.

Spending both 1sts on DEs who wouldn’t warrant a 1st on their own make sense to me.

Karlaftis can make an immediate impact, but he’s never going to have a high ceiling. But you can play him week 1 knowing you’ll ~8 sacks a season out of him. That doesn’t make a lot of sense on its own, but when you combine that with a sky-high potential at “leo” with Ojabo, you’ve effectively drafted your starting DEs for the next 5 years back-to-back in the 1st.

Karlaftis’ immediate impact allows us to be patient in bringing Ojabo along, and Ojabo’s upside allows us to look past Karlaftis’ lack of ceiling.

We talked about trading up all of last year, only for the Chiefs to stay put at the bottom of the 2nd and take two Pro Bowl caliber players.

Going DE back to back is incredibly unorthodox, but given the tire fire that position is right now, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility, and those two players in tandem could be an excellent combo there.
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Old 04-11-2022, 02:26 PM   #16
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Old 04-12-2022, 06:34 AM   #17
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In thinking about Ojabo, I can't help but consider the case of George Pickens.

Tore his ACL and came back late in the season. Was he 100%? Probably not. But he could play.

Is Ojabo worth the risk? I would say yes, IF you're double dipping at the position-which I'd be absolutely in favor of. You'd need a Drake Jackson/Sam Williams/Cam Thomas type who's ready to help day one.

I'm kind of in favor of double dipping at DE as well as WR in those first three rounds, personally. It depends on how the board falls of course, but there seems to be a lot of talent at these positions that should be available.
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Old 04-12-2022, 07:03 AM   #18
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The issue being how boom/bust the Achilles injury is.

I think there's a better chance than ever at Ojabo coming back and being a damn good player, sure. And that's why he's still on my board in the late 1st or mid-2nd.

But there's a non-zero chance the guy is simply never an NFL player. His productivity depended a LOT on his burst and if he loses it, he's probably not even a rotational DE.

If Karlaftis is there, with a MUCH higher floor, I think Karlaftis is a no-brainer over Ojabo. The question becomes w/ guys like Thomas or even Jones.

It's just an awfully big risk to burn a 1st rounder on a guy who has a 20% chance of simply never being an NFL caliber player at ALL.
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Old 04-12-2022, 08:01 AM   #19
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In thinking about Ojabo, I can't help but consider the case of George Pickens.

Tore his ACL and came back late in the season. Was he 100%? Probably not. But he could play.

Is Ojabo worth the risk? I would say yes, IF you're double dipping at the position-which I'd be absolutely in favor of. You'd need a Drake Jackson/Sam Williams/Cam Thomas type who's ready to help day one.

I'm kind of in favor of double dipping at DE as well as WR in those first three rounds, personally. It depends on how the board falls of course, but there seems to be a lot of talent at these positions that should be available.
But its more serious than Pickens injury and heas a much bigger guy. As far as i know Cam Akers is the only person to ever return in the same season from it and look decent.
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I just don't think you can burn a 1 on him. Maybe a 2.
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Old 04-12-2022, 08:05 AM   #21
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I just don't think you can burn a 1 on him. Maybe a 2.
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