George Pickens

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I don't see #1 potential.

He looks like he could be a Marvin Jones to me. Good player that will get play but not the alpha.

That's just nuts.

If you want to feel like there's a possibility of a low floor, yeah, okay, I'll grant you that. It's possible that he just can't learn an NFL route tree (although I don't really understand how that's possible, to be honest. I mean, it's a ****ing route. We have coaches, and mini-camps, and more coaching, and training camp, and lots of film. How the hell can you not learn to run a route?)

But to say that a 6'3" guy that's 200 pounds, with excellent body control, plus speed, a seriously aggressive attitude and fantastic hands doesn't have #1 potential is absurd.

He ABSOLUTELY has #1 potential.

He could also bust, and the likelihood of that can be debated.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

That's just nuts.

If you want to feel like there's a possibility of a low floor, yeah, okay, I'll grant you that. It's possible that he just can't learn an NFL route tree (although I don't really understand how that's possible, to be honest. I mean, it's a ****ing route. We have coaches, and mini-camps, and more coaching, and training camp, and lots of film. How the hell can you not learn to run a route?)

But to say that a 6'3" guy that's 200 pounds, with excellent body control, plus speed, a seriously aggressive attitude and fantastic hands doesn't have #1 potential is absurd.

He ABSOLUTELY has #1 potential.

He could also bust, and the likelihood of that can be debated.

We will have to disagree here. I think you are a very smart poster on football but we just see it differently on this player.

And that's OK.

I would love for us to draft him, I undersell him and he makes me look dumb

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

It's possible that he just can't learn an NFL route tree (although I don't really understand how that's possible, to be honest. I mean, it's a ****ing route.

Route running is not just mental. Route running has to do with your physical gifts. Do you have the ability to sink your hips and change direction, make cuts, and explode in and out of breaks? Pickens is like a baby deer that’s too heavy up top with skinny legs. He can’t change direction. Get that baby deer (pickens) going fast in a straight line, the baby deer can do that. But change direction or run routes, no. Now watson, does he have the athletic traits to become a good route runner? absolutely, he has all of that ability. Watson is also a day one gadget guy. He’s electric with the ball in hands. His acceleration is crazy and his top end speed is eye popping, Hill like speed. Pickens can’t do any of that; he is a long strider with build up speed. Look at pickens athletic traits and you’ll like him less. That’s why pickens can’t run routes.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Route running is not just mental. Route running has to do with your physical gifts. Do you have the ability to sink your hips and change direction, make cuts, and explode in and out of breaks? Pickens is like a baby deer that’s too heavy up top with skinny legs. He can’t change direction. Get that baby deer (pickens) going fast in a straight line, the baby deer can do that. But change direction or run routes, no. Now watson, does he have the athletic traits to become a good route runner? absolutely, he has all of that ability. Watson is also a day one gadget guy. He’s electric with the ball in hands. His acceleration is crazy and his top end speed is eye popping, Hill like speed. Pickens can’t do any of that; he is a long strider with build up speed. Look at pickens athletic traits and you’ll like him less.

All of the same knocks on DK Metcalf coming out and yet...

Look, I like Watson too. I think that IF there is a generational talent WR that comes out of this draft (and I don't really think there is! But IF there's a guy that ends up a hall of famer, MVP type guy) it's Watson.

But that would require a lot of smoothing of rough edges. If there's a team and a coach that could get that out of him, it's Andy Reid.

But I like Pickens, I like his fight, I like his hands, I like his ball tracking. He's big, he's fast enough to be a problem especially with his size and ball tracking.