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Old 03-27-2022, 09:09 AM  
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George Pickens
Why isn't this kid being talked about? Injury of course but man when healthy he looks like an explosive receiver who can catch anything thrown his way. Would love to have him but I'm honestly not sure where he should go.
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Old 04-24-2022, 06:47 PM   #106
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How exactly do "character concerns" come up in an interview, exactly?

I could see a team coming away with the impression that a player is not smart. Or dreadfully inexperienced. They could think the player was unprepared for the interview, which could lead them to think he won't work hard.

But like... they already know about any character concerns given that most of that shit is public and could be discovered by any jackass with an internet connection. And if there's stuff that's not public information, how are they going to figure that out unless the player straight up says, "Yeah, I love drugs and committing crimes. And I think all coaches are dweebs."
Maybe they try to take him to the board and he doesn't have his X's and O's down? Big Ego? Small IQ? Blunt about not wanting to play for crap organizations? IDK exactly but I suppose thats why they do these interviews.
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Old 04-25-2022, 08:09 AM   #107
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The coaches and scouts The Athletic talked to in their Draft Confidential piece weren't big fans of Pickens either.


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Which WR is the most boom-or-bust guy?

Scout 2: George Pickens. There’s a lot of upside, but he can’t get out of his own way. He’s been enabled his whole life.

WR Coach 3: Pickens. You love his game, but there’s some issues. Do you want to work with him? He’s a top-6 talent-wise, but it’s impossible not to add those other things. He has the size, has really good range. He positions his body on deep throws. He consistently beats press coverage. Has good start-stops with some AI (Allen Iverson) crossover in his game. A lot of the stuff in (Todd Monken’s) system translates to the NFL. But I wouldn’t touch him.

WR Coach 5 on Pickens: On tape, he is probably a top-5 wide receiver but there’s just so many red flags, and they’re big red flags. He’s got a lot of growing up to do. If he goes to the right place with a room full of veterans that help him go the right way, I think he’ll have a chance.”

WR Coach 2: North Dakota State’s Christian Watson. He’s got excellent size and he’s a freak athlete testing-wise, but man, I worry about how well he catches the ball. He drops easy catches. Does he have vision problems? He just doesn’t look natural trying to catch a football.
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Old 04-25-2022, 08:14 AM   #108
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Old 04-25-2022, 08:19 AM   #109
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Interesting that there are hidden character concerns that emerge in an interview process and which start circulating a week ahead of the draft. We, the fans, will have to see how it shakes out in the draft to know how true they are.
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Old 04-25-2022, 10:51 AM   #110
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I think it will come down to Pickens or Watson for the Chiefs.

Im starting to lean more towards Watson. Pickens is better right now but the injuries are a big concern. Not sure if I believe the character concerns but if they pick him, then Im fine with that too.

Watson has some amazing qualities and that ceiling could be HUGE!
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Old 04-25-2022, 10:54 AM   #111
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I think it will come down to Pickens or Watson for the Chiefs.

Im starting to lean more towards Watson. Pickens is better right now but the injuries are a big concern. Not sure if I believe the character concerns but if they pick him, then Im fine with that too.

Watson has some amazing qualities and that ceiling could be HUGE!
I wouldn’t be mad if they drafted Alex Pierce. I may be in the minority here, but even in the 1st round I’ll be good with it.
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Old 04-25-2022, 11:00 AM   #112
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Interesting that there are hidden character concerns that emerge in an interview process and which start circulating a week ahead of the draft. We, the fans, will have to see how it shakes out in the draft to know how true they are.
I don't think there's anything hidden about George Pickens' concerns.

I mentioned it over a month ago with my first eval of him. I noticed a lot of "extra" going on after plays. You can note numerous corners that clearly had some bad intent for him. Giving him "the business". Clearly an indication of some jawing going on.

He has a play where he got tackled and grabs the defenders face mask and yanks it around.

He was penalized for squirting gaterade on an opposing player while on the sideline.

On his first game back from injury he was thrown out after getting into a fight on the field. He grabbed dude's facemask and threw him into the wall by his helmet.

There were some serious character red flags ON the field, so it's not surprising to see these scouting rumors.
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Old 04-25-2022, 11:02 AM   #113
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I don't think there's anything hidden about George Pickens' concerns.

I mentioned it over a month ago with my first eval of him. I noticed a lot of "extra" going on after plays. You can note numerous corners that clearly had some bad intent for him. Giving him "the business". Clearly an indication of some jawing going on.

He has a play where he got tackled and grabs the defenders face mask and yanks it around.

He was penalized for squirting gaterade on an opposing player while on the sideline.

On his first game back from injury he was thrown out after getting into a fight on the field. He grabbed dude's facemask and threw him into the wall by his helmet.

There were some serious character red flags ON the field, so it's not surprising to see these scouting rumors.

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Old 04-25-2022, 11:03 AM   #114
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Idk, it'll depend on how he interviews.

He's a hot head on the field.

But i think it also manifests in positive ways too. He'll lay his body out there to make the catch. He's a ferocious run blocker.

He's a passionate guy. It just depends on if the Chiefs think they can channel that passion.

I'd rather take the chance to channel that passion and talent then go with Skyy Moore.
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Idk, it'll depend on how he interviews.

He's a hot head on the field.

But i think it also manifests in positive ways too. He'll lay his body out there to make the catch. He's a ferocious run blocker.

He's a passionate guy. It just depends on if the Chiefs think they can channel that passion.

I'd rather take the chance to channel that passion and talent then go with Skyy Moore.
If it's between Moore or Pickens...then I'm going Pickens. I just like guys like Pierce and Tolbert more.
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Old 04-25-2022, 12:31 PM   #118
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The Pickens red flags seem a bit overblown IMO
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If it's between Moore or Pickens...then I'm going Pickens. I just like guys like Pierce and Tolbert more.
I like Tolbert, I'm way off on Pierce. Late 2nd at the absolute earliest.
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ESPN analyzer suggests Pickens first opportunity to be drafted is at #30 to the Chiefs, but it's unlikely: http://espnsportsanalytics.com/
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