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Old 03-26-2022, 10:58 AM  
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The roster as it stands

My 2022 Game 1 roster guesses:

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

ST
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Townsend
Winchester

PTW- PS
Crum - PS
Franks - Release
Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS




Just trying to keep up....makes it a little more clear to be able to see needs/wants

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buchele
RB - CEH/Jones/Gore/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Gordon/Powell/Fountain
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Niang/Wylie/Christian/Kinnard
RG - Smith
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretti
LT - OBJ/PTW
LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Kaindoh
WLB - Harris/Chenal
MLB - Bolton/Carter
SLB - Gay/Lee
LCB - Fenton/McDuffie/Bootle/Watson
RCB - Sneed/Baker/Williams/Barcoo/Johnson
SS - Reid/Key/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush/Anderson

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Old 05-12-2022, 11:13 AM   #481
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Mike Rose. I think he makes it. Good backup who played in the slot as a LB in college.

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Old 05-12-2022, 02:53 PM   #482
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Some guys I still think make sense:

NT Eddie Goldman (CHI)
He had some down seasons in 2019 and 2021 and opted out in 2020 under Nagy's regime but he was a stud in 2017 and 2018. He may be a nice reclamation at this stage that should come cheap. The question is more about his mental makeup and the fit there than anything else, IMO.

DT Larry Ogunjobi (CIN)
Was the number one guy on my list and remains so but he had foot surgery at the end of last year and didn't pass a physical for Chicago or he'd be a Bear. He just got done visiting the Jets for two days. I'd kick the tires and see if the issue is still present for him, and sign him immediately if not. He can play either position at DT and can affect the QB.

DT Sheldon Richardson (MIN)
Richardson was a beast most of his career but took on more of a rotational role last year with the Vikings in his second stint. On a 1-year deal as a piece behind Chris Jones, I think he'd be a nice fit. That said, Stallworth is a sleeper pickup that put alot of hits on the QB last year in limited action so I'm not sure there's much room for a guy that can't slide to NT.

NT Danny Shelton (NYG)
Shelton is a mammoth that's hard to move but he offers zero upside getting to the QB. He'd be a quality rotational nose but I'd like just a little bit more. If he's a Mike Pennel type of cheap addition there, no problem. And speaking of Pennel...

NT Mike Pennel (ATL)
Pennel is a FA again and just turned 31. He'd still be nice in rotation with Nnadi at NT. We know what he brings to the table, which is just a tough object to move in the run game. I wouldn't mind him back.

DT Akiem Hicks (CHI)
Hicks has shown he can still be a quality player but he's had issues staying healthy in 2 of the past 3 seasons, so there's quite a bit of concern there. He can certainly get to the QB and has the size to be a moving piece at either position. I like him on a one-year deal but it'd have to be fairly cheap to hedge the injury concern.

DE Trey Flowers (DET)
After back-to-back injury-riddled seasons in Detroit where he only played in 7 games each, you have to wonder if he's even worth the time at this point. That said, if he can stay healthy he is a quality strong-side end that can get you 7 sacks and 20 QB hits while shutting down the run. If he's willing to come in on a 1-year minimal prove-it deal then I'm on board. A rotation with Karlaftis could be quite productive.

DE Ifeadi Odenigbo (CLE)
I'm not sure what happened in Cleveland last year but Ifeadi didn't have a good season and only played in 9 games with no starts and bounced around between the PS and 53. He had a quality year in 2019 as a rotational end for Minnesota with 7 sacks and 13 QB hits, then started 15 games for them in 2020 with 3.5 sacks and 15 QB hits. He could be an okay rotational guy. I think he's worth more of a chance than bringing a guy back like Okafor, who just doesn't do anything to affect the game.

DE Dawuane Smoot (JAX) - Trade
This is a guy that might be had for a late day 3 pick given Jacksonville drafted Walker and already have Allen, plus Smoot is in the final year of his contract. Smoot isn't a superstar but he's had 6 sacks in each of the past 3 years and 16 and 17 QB hits in the past two seasons. He seems to be a late bloomer that's finally a productive player. He'd be nice in rotation with Clark and Karlaftis.

DE Jadeveon Clowney (CLE)
Clowney probably makes the most sense at DE but he's a yoyo in terms of affecting the QB. That said, he's solid in all facets. If you can get the 9 sack/21 QB hit production he is capable of, you have a solid win.

CB James Bradberry (NYG)
Bradberry can still play at a very high level. I don't know if the Chiefs will have a shot but if they do he'd be a nice get and would be an impact #1 CB right away.

CB Nik Needham or CB Noah Igbinoghene (MIA) - Trade
Perhaps the Dolphins would move their starting NB in Needham, who also projects well outside at 6'1" 196 given they still have 2020 1st rounder Noah Igbinoghene on the bench, or maybe they'd move Igbinaghene for super cheap?

WR Chester Rodgers (TEN)
I don't think the Chiefs would be looking for potential impact starters at this point, so I think a guy like Odell is off the table. That said, they should be looking for better special teams and guys that can still contribute. Rodgers is a good punt and kick returner and a solid rotational WR as a 4th-6th type of guy.
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Old 05-12-2022, 03:09 PM   #483
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kccrow,

Good list of players.

I really liked Mike Pennel the first year he was with the Chiefs. In his 2nd year he really dropped off. He may have been playing injured. I think Chiefs played him the same, but he seemed drained of energy.

My first choice for a free agent DT would be Larry Ogunjobi dependent upon his foot and how much he will cost.

Maybe any trade for Miami CBs would involve trading back their 2023 draft picks.

The fact that we have not heard a lot about the market for James Bradberry is interesting. I figured some NFL team would have signed him by now. That may mean his price tag is pretty high.
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Old 05-12-2022, 03:25 PM   #484
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I was interested in seeing DE Jerry Hughes new contract with the Texans. Since Chiefs have a UFA tag of $4.4 M for DE Melvin Ingram but he is still free to sign elsewhere. It was initially reported that Hughes was getting 2 years, $10 M. If you actually look at the contract though, it is a little more than what Ingram's contract would be with KC.

Jerry Hughes with Texans
2022 $2,000,000 Base, $1,250,000 Bonus, $500K per game bonus, $3,750,000 cap
2023 $4,000,000 Base, $1,250,000 Bonus, $1 M per game bonus, $6,250,000 cap
If cut 2023 team saves $5 M with $1,250,000 of dead money.
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Old 05-12-2022, 04:26 PM   #485
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Why does the roster stand?

Why doesn't the roster sit, recline, stretch out, or curl up for a nap?
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Why does the roster stand?
Why doesn't the roster sit, recline, stretch out, or curl up for a nap?
Bear with me on this definition.

A rooster is a male domestic chicken.

A roster is a list of personnel.

Do not confuse roster with rooster.

A stand can be many things –
1. It can be maintaining an upright position supported by one’s feet.
2. It can be a building or settlement situated in a particular place or position.
3. It can be in a specified state or condition.
4. An attitude toward a particular issue.
5. A piece of furniture or an item to hold something.
6. The place where someone typically stands or sits.

You don’t want to make a rooster stand. He may become mean and chase you.

A roster however is ok to make a stand with. (But not a plant stand)

You would have to ask Phoneix to be sure, but I believe the statement is –

With a list of Kansas City Chiefs personnel, this is the specified state or condition.

Hopefully I’ve been a great help to you and you will be able to sleep tonight.

Carry on.
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I love the idea of Clowney on this defense. He and Karlaftis would be a damn good set of starting DEs. Those edges would be sealed and opposing passers would be forced to play with an accelerated clock.
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#1 X WR. They don't have one. I'd roll the dice with OBJ or Julio Jones. I don't think either would break the bank at this point but it fills a huge need.

#2 Vet CB. Bradberry. He's a FA that likely won't break the bank. Sign him on a 1 year (2 year for cap purposes) so he can hit FA next year when there is money out there. This would give the Chiefs 2 #1 CBs and one of the top ones in the draft.

#3 Vet DE Ingram. It makes too much sense.
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Bear with me on this definition.

A rooster is a male domestic chicken.

A roster is a list of personnel.

Do not confuse roster with rooster.

A stand can be many things –
1. It can be maintaining an upright position supported by one’s feet.
2. It can be a building or settlement situated in a particular place or position.
3. It can be in a specified state or condition.
4. An attitude toward a particular issue.
5. A piece of furniture or an item to hold something.
6. The place where someone typically stands or sits.

You don’t want to make a rooster stand. He may become mean and chase you.

A roster however is ok to make a stand with. (But not a plant stand)

You would have to ask Phoneix to be sure, but I believe the statement is –

With a list of Kansas City Chiefs personnel, this is the specified state or condition.

Hopefully I’ve been a great help to you and you will be able to sleep tonight.

Carry on.

so how many roosters on the roster?
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Bear with me on this definition.

A rooster is a male domestic chicken.

A roster is a list of personnel.

Do not confuse roster with rooster.

A stand can be many things –
1. It can be maintaining an upright position supported by one’s feet.
2. It can be a building or settlement situated in a particular place or position.
3. It can be in a specified state or condition.
4. An attitude toward a particular issue.
5. A piece of furniture or an item to hold something.
6. The place where someone typically stands or sits.

You don’t want to make a rooster stand. He may become mean and chase you.

A roster however is ok to make a stand with. (But not a plant stand)

You would have to ask Phoneix to be sure, but I believe the statement is –

With a list of Kansas City Chiefs personnel, this is the specified state or condition.

Hopefully I’ve been a great help to you and you will be able to sleep tonight.

Carry on.
Thank you Mr. Wilson8, profusely. Your reasoning and divination seem sound.

I am looking forward to seeing the roster doing other things in the future. Things like running, catching, eluding, and scoring. Of course, some of the time the roster could do some blitzing, crushing, pummeling, and things of that nature.

Again, much thanks.
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Some guys I still think make sense:

NT Eddie Goldman (CHI)
He had some down seasons in 2019 and 2021 and opted out in 2020 under Nagy's regime but he was a stud in 2017 and 2018. He may be a nice reclamation at this stage that should come cheap. The question is more about his mental makeup and the fit there than anything else, IMO.

DT Larry Ogunjobi (CIN)
Was the number one guy on my list and remains so but he had foot surgery at the end of last year and didn't pass a physical for Chicago or he'd be a Bear. He just got done visiting the Jets for two days. I'd kick the tires and see if the issue is still present for him, and sign him immediately if not. He can play either position at DT and can affect the QB.

DT Sheldon Richardson (MIN)
Richardson was a beast most of his career but took on more of a rotational role last year with the Vikings in his second stint. On a 1-year deal as a piece behind Chris Jones, I think he'd be a nice fit. That said, Stallworth is a sleeper pickup that put alot of hits on the QB last year in limited action so I'm not sure there's much room for a guy that can't slide to NT.

NT Danny Shelton (NYG)
Shelton is a mammoth that's hard to move but he offers zero upside getting to the QB. He'd be a quality rotational nose but I'd like just a little bit more. If he's a Mike Pennel type of cheap addition there, no problem. And speaking of Pennel...

NT Mike Pennel (ATL)
Pennel is a FA again and just turned 31. He'd still be nice in rotation with Nnadi at NT. We know what he brings to the table, which is just a tough object to move in the run game. I wouldn't mind him back.

DT Akiem Hicks (CHI)
Hicks has shown he can still be a quality player but he's had issues staying healthy in 2 of the past 3 seasons, so there's quite a bit of concern there. He can certainly get to the QB and has the size to be a moving piece at either position. I like him on a one-year deal but it'd have to be fairly cheap to hedge the injury concern.

DE Trey Flowers (DET)
After back-to-back injury-riddled seasons in Detroit where he only played in 7 games each, you have to wonder if he's even worth the time at this point. That said, if he can stay healthy he is a quality strong-side end that can get you 7 sacks and 20 QB hits while shutting down the run. If he's willing to come in on a 1-year minimal prove-it deal then I'm on board. A rotation with Karlaftis could be quite productive.

DE Ifeadi Odenigbo (CLE)
I'm not sure what happened in Cleveland last year but Ifeadi didn't have a good season and only played in 9 games with no starts and bounced around between the PS and 53. He had a quality year in 2019 as a rotational end for Minnesota with 7 sacks and 13 QB hits, then started 15 games for them in 2020 with 3.5 sacks and 15 QB hits. He could be an okay rotational guy. I think he's worth more of a chance than bringing a guy back like Okafor, who just doesn't do anything to affect the game.

DE Dawuane Smoot (JAX) - Trade
This is a guy that might be had for a late day 3 pick given Jacksonville drafted Walker and already have Allen, plus Smoot is in the final year of his contract. Smoot isn't a superstar but he's had 6 sacks in each of the past 3 years and 16 and 17 QB hits in the past two seasons. He seems to be a late bloomer that's finally a productive player. He'd be nice in rotation with Clark and Karlaftis.

DE Jadeveon Clowney (CLE)
Clowney probably makes the most sense at DE but he's a yoyo in terms of affecting the QB. That said, he's solid in all facets. If you can get the 9 sack/21 QB hit production he is capable of, you have a solid win.

CB James Bradberry (NYG)
Bradberry can still play at a very high level. I don't know if the Chiefs will have a shot but if they do he'd be a nice get and would be an impact #1 CB right away.

CB Nik Needham or CB Noah Igbinoghene (MIA) - Trade
Perhaps the Dolphins would move their starting NB in Needham, who also projects well outside at 6'1" 196 given they still have 2020 1st rounder Noah Igbinoghene on the bench, or maybe they'd move Igbinaghene for super cheap?

WR Chester Rodgers (TEN)
I don't think the Chiefs would be looking for potential impact starters at this point, so I think a guy like Odell is off the table. That said, they should be looking for better special teams and guys that can still contribute. Rodgers is a good punt and kick returner and a solid rotational WR as a 4th-6th type of guy.
Nice list, although can't say I'm that familiar with all of them. Surely Ingram as well, or is that somewhat of a given? The only two I'd be confident improve us are probably Hicks and Clowney, but I guess Hicks needs to stay healthy. I'd be willing to gamble as he's a definite upgrade at DT even if he's on the downslide
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Clowney would be my first add along with Ingram. I think that would set the defense up pretty well and you wouldln't really have a glaring weakness.

Then just add around the margins.
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Post PS Game 2 53 man roster guesses. The Coleman/Fountain question seems to have my brain perplexed. I think they carry 3 QB's this year and next year we see Henne walk off into the sunset.

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

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Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS
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Old 08-21-2022, 02:21 PM   #494
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Bear with me on this definition.

A rooster is a male domestic chicken.

A roster is a list of personnel.

Do not confuse roster with rooster.

A stand can be many things –
1. It can be maintaining an upright position supported by one’s feet.
2. It can be a building or settlement situated in a particular place or position.
3. It can be in a specified state or condition.
4. An attitude toward a particular issue.
5. A piece of furniture or an item to hold something.
6. The place where someone typically stands or sits.

You don’t want to make a rooster stand. He may become mean and chase you.

A roster however is ok to make a stand with. (But not a plant stand)

You would have to ask Phoneix to be sure, but I believe the statement is –

With a list of Kansas City Chiefs personnel, this is the specified state or condition.

Hopefully I’ve been a great help to you and you will be able to sleep tonight.

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Old 08-21-2022, 02:50 PM   #495
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Post PS Game 2 53 man roster guesses. The Coleman/Fountain question seems to have my brain perplexed. I think they carry 3 QB's this year and next year we see Henne walk off into the sunset.

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

ST
Butker
Townsend
Winchester

PTW- PS
Crum - PS
Franks - Release
Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS
I think you mostly have it right.

I’d go Coleman over Fountain. I also think we keep 2 QBs and either Stallworth or Shelton on the DL.
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Post PS Game 2 53 man roster guesses. The Coleman/Fountain question seems to have my brain perplexed. I think they carry 3 QB's this year and next year we see Henne walk off into the sunset.

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

ST
Butker
Townsend
Winchester

PTW- PS
Crum - PS
Franks - Release
Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS
I think you mostly have it right.

I’d go Coleman over Fountain. I also think we keep 2 QBs and either Stallworth or Shelton on the DL.
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