Where do the Chiefs stand in the Division?

[comochiefsfan]

This hurts.

We're clearly behind LA now and probably even with Denver and Vegas.

Hopefully we make the playoffs next year. This blows.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Is this an appropriate question to ask Hackett?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yeah, the coaching gap deserves more run/credit.

Nathaniel Hackett is what, like the 14th guy down from Shanahan in that tree (OK, an exaggeration, but still…) and he’s not an original member of that tree. His main accomplishment before the Packers was being really good at getting jobs from Doug Marrone.

Brandon Staley sounds great in interviews and speaks openly, which makes him popular in the media. He also exhibited a LOT of issues that would indicate he’s in over his head:
1) heavily penalized team
2) poor understanding/feel of when to stick to analytics and when to take a simple play (like getting points)
3) second-half of season collapse that included big upset losses

And Josh McDaniels? This dude was an absolute DISASTER as a head coach the first time around, and what New England assistant has ever nailed it outside of New England? The best fruit from that tree is Bill O’Brien or Brian Flores.

When a tree is that diseased, it usually is cut down…

I hate how Staley is compared to Sean McVay as a boy genius.

McVay coached in the NFL for 8 or 9 years as an assistant in some capacity. He'd been around the pro game. He had a good understanding of the ins and outs of pro coaching.

Staley had been an NFL coach for what? Three years? Before that all he did was coach Division III. Not even as a head coach, either. He also jumped the QC/lower assistant jobs that are often quite valuable for cutting one's teeth in terms of the management and legwork aspects of planning in a coaching job. Nor was a he a player in the NFL.

It was only his first year, and he made some mistakes, sure, but thus far to this point, is there anything people see in him that makes them think, "Yeah, he's waaaay better than Anthony Lynn" the way McVay looked like a clear upgrade from Jeff Fisher?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I hate how Staley is compared to Sean McVay as a boy genius.

McVay coached in the NFL for 8 or 9 years as an assistant in some capacity. He'd been around the pro game. He had a good understanding of the ins and outs of pro coaching.

Staley had been an NFL coach for what? Three years? Before that all he did was coach Division III. Not even as a head coach, either. He also jumped the QC/lower assistant jobs that are often quite valuable for cutting one's teeth in terms of the management and legwork aspects of planning in a coaching job. Nor was a he a player in the NFL.

It was only his first year, and he made some mistakes, sure, but thus far to this point, is there anything people see in him that makes them think, "Yeah, he's waaaay better than Anthony Lynn" the way McVay looked like a clear upgrade from Jeff Fisher?

It's rather silly.

After one year, lots of flash. Not as much substance.

[KChiefs1]

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[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

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I can handle "it's the Chargers' year" season just fine. I'm used to it and they are the biggest challenger in the division.

But the Broncos? GTFO out of here until they actually are relevant.

[Chieftain]

I've wondered for the longest time, why does Damien Woody have a job at ESPN? He has the personality of a broom stick and isn't exactly very bright on top of that. Boggles the mind.

[KChiefs1]

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[Rainbarrel]

It's not that the Chargers don't have fans. They're just lead to believe by sports programs. They deserve a better product to show up for and spend their money on

[Rasputin]

What's funny from most of rankings i've seen they all got Raiders at the bottom yet they were the WC last year and mad significant improvement including getting Devante Adams but they aren't getting any respect and I'm ok with that. I think Raiders and Dolts will compete for second place and get a WC maybe both get WC but Donks will be lucky be 500 team.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

What's funny from most of rankings i've seen they all got Raiders at the bottom yet they were the WC last year and mad significant improvement including getting Devante Adams but they aren't getting any respect and I'm ok with that. I think Raiders and Dolts will compete for second place and get a WC maybe both get WC but Donks will be lucky be 500 team.

IMO, the Raiders and Bolts will finish 1-2. Don't know the order. KC will finish 3rd and make the playoffs as a WC team. Once in the playoffs, anything can happen... I think the Donx still finish last.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by TEX

IMO, the Raiders and Bolts will finish 1-2. Don't know the order. KC will finish 3rd and make the playoffs as a WC team. Once in the playoffs, anything can happen... I think the Donx still finish last.

I’ll see it when I believe it.

Are you forgetting what an epic ****ing disaster McDabiels was the first time around?

Chargers? Maybe. But the Raiders aren’t finishing higher than KC or LA.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by TEX

IMO, the Raiders and Bolts will finish 1-2. Don't know the order. KC will finish 3rd and make the playoffs as a WC team. Once in the playoffs, anything can happen... I think the Donx still finish last.

The average score vs the Raiders was like 45-10 last year. You think they've surpassed the Chiefs now?

[Rainbarrel]

I believed in the Raiders rise to at least second in the division. Until the stories about the front office fiasco as of late

[TEX]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’ll see it when I believe it.

Are you forgetting what an epic ****ing disaster McDabiels was the first time around?

Chargers? Maybe. But the Raiders aren’t finishing higher than KC or LA.

Maybe you're right. Maybe they finish 3rd. But they have a lot of talent, made the playoffs last year and had a good off season. They won't finish last.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

I believed in the Raiders rise to at least second in the division. Until the stories about the front office fiasco as of late

Not sure that will affect the football side of things but it could.