Deshaun Watson to Browns

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by stevieray

^ok weirdo^


You think Tyreek was guilty of child abuse??

Doesn't matter what I think. Tyreek was convicted of beating up his pregnant girlfriend.

And you, in all your moral superiority, still cheered for him every Sunday. What's that say about you?

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Doesn't matter what I think. Tyreek was convicted of beating up his pregnant girlfriend.

And you, in all your moral superiority, still cheered for him every Sunday. What's that say about you?

I cheered for the Chiefs.

i didn't give two shits when "Mr 7 SB's' was traded.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I cheered for the Chiefs.

i didn't give two shits when "Mr 7 SB's' was traded.

Good to know it's OK for you but no one else because... reasons..

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Good to know it's OK for you but no one else because... reasons..

I kinda differentiate between the two fwiw.

Yes, Tyreek had the situation in college which was obviously fairly horrible. But he was young and by all accounts it was an isolated incident. And people at that age are more prone to make mistakes and have more room to grow and improve. (Note: I'm ignoring both the possibility that the situation in college was less bad than it appeared as well as the stuff that happened with his son a few years ago.)

Watson on the other hand seems to have a serial problem in this respect. Not a one-time thing. And to me that plays a little bit different.

I'd hate to be a Browns fan needing to defend the guy. Here you are, a fan of a team that for years has been a loser but at least a loveable loser that fans of opposing teams could actually support (not unlike the Bengals), and you suddenly skip the line because you're willing to pay more than anyone else for Watson.

Yeah, I wanted the Chiefs to win, but if we did it by getting Watson, the SB victory wouldn't have been remotely as satisfying.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I kinda differentiate between the two fwiw.

Yes, Tyreek had the situation in college which was obviously fairly horrible. But he was young and by all accounts it was an isolated incident. And people at that age are more prone to make mistakes and have more room to grow and improve. (Note: I'm ignoring both the possibility that the situation in college was less bad than it appeared as well as the stuff that happened with his son a few years ago.)

Watson on the other hand seems to have a serial problem in this respect. Not a one-time thing. And to me that plays a little bit different.

I'd hate to be a Browns fan needing to defend the guy. Here you are, a fan of a team that for years has been a loser but at least a loveable loser that fans of opposing teams could actually support (not unlike the Bengals), and you suddenly skip the line because you're willing to pay more than anyone else for Watson.

Yeah, I wanted the Chiefs to win, but if we did it by getting Watson, the SB victory wouldn't have been remotely as satisfying.

Nail on the ****ing head.

It appears Tyreek was in a toxic relationship, and with time, I think that been proven to be the case.

Like you said, Watson’s issues are more serial.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I kinda differentiate between the two fwiw.

Yes, Tyreek had the situation in college which was obviously fairly horrible. But he was young and by all accounts it was an isolated incident. And people at that age are more prone to make mistakes and have more room to grow and improve. (Note: I'm ignoring both the possibility that the situation in college was less bad than it appeared as well as the stuff that happened with his son a few years ago.)

Watson on the other hand seems to have a serial problem in this respect. Not a one-time thing. And to me that plays a little bit different.

I'd hate to be a Browns fan needing to defend the guy. Here you are, a fan of a team that for years has been a loser but at least a loveable loser that fans of opposing teams could actually support (not unlike the Bengals), and you suddenly skip the line because you're willing to pay more than anyone else for Watson.

Yeah, I wanted the Chiefs to win, but if we did it by getting Watson, the SB victory wouldn't have been remotely as satisfying.

I'm a huge Tyreek Hill fan so you don't have to convince me.

I'm just laughing at stevie's hypocrisy. He's talking about how NFL players should be choir boys due to how much they get paid and lamenting how we, as fans, have lowered the bar for them. Whole time he's cheering for a team that employs Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Willie Gay, etc. as well as a coach who clearly has some issues raising functional children.

Who cares about any of that? Not me, but apparently stevie does. It's just amusing.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm a huge Tyreek Hill fan so you don't have to convince me.

I'm just laughing at stevie's hypocrisy. He's talking about how NFL players should be choir boys due to how much they get paid and lamenting how we, as fans, have lowered the bar for them. Whole time he's cheering for a team that employs Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Willie Gay, etc. as well as a coach who clearly has some issues raising functional children.

Who cares about any of that? Not me, but apparently stevie does. It's just amusing.

I cheer for the Chiefs because they are my hometown team and I grew up five minutes from Arrowhead. Just like I still love family members who have slipped through the cracks, because they are family.

We hold highly paid professionals to a high standard in almost every aspect of life, except a few areas, sports being one of them.

The majority of NFL players hold themselves to that standard, past and present. You can mock me all you want for hoping for the best for the players, team and city. I can't control what they do..you have no problem with it, as long as you are entertained. That's lowering the bar. Clark, like his father, is HUGE on giving back to the community. Pretty sure he doesn't just gloss over those incidents as if they didn't matter.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I cheer for the Chiefs because they are my hometown team and I grew up five minutes from Arrowhead. Just like I still love family members who have slipped through the cracks, because they are family.

We hold highly paid professionals to a high standard in almost every aspect of life, except a few areas, sports being one of them.

The majority of NFL players hold themselves to that standard, past and present. You can mock me all you want for hoping for the best for the players, team and city. I can't control what they do..you have no problem with it, as long as you are entertained. That's lowering the bar. Clark, like his father, is HUGE on giving back to the community. Pretty sure he doesn't just gloss over those incidents as if they didn't matter.

You are cheering and celebrating players who do things that are in direct conflict with your beliefs.

This makes you the one lowering yourself to cheer for them.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm a huge Tyreek Hill fan so you don't have to convince me.

I'm just laughing at stevie's hypocrisy. He's talking about how NFL players should be choir boys due to how much they get paid and lamenting how we, as fans, have lowered the bar for them. Whole time he's cheering for a team that employs Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Willie Gay, etc. as well as a coach who clearly has some issues raising functional children.

Who cares about any of that? Not me, but apparently stevie does. It's just amusing.

Originally Posted by stevieray

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We hold highly paid professionals to a high standard in almost every aspect of life, except a few areas, sports being one of them.

The majority of NFL players hold themselves to that standard, past and present. You can mock me all you want for hoping for the best for the players, team and city. I can't control what they do..you have no problem with it, as long as you are entertained. That's lowering the bar. Clark, like his father, is HUGE on giving back to the community. Pretty sure he doesn't just gloss over those incidents as if they didn't matter.

I find the celebratory worship of athletes and Hollywood stars kind of sad.

I watch sports and Hollywood movies because the product on the field or the movie itself entertains me. I'm not trying to live my life vicariously through someone else.

Except to the extent that the stories are unavoidable (because they overwhelm pages of Chiefs Planet like with Hill and obviously with Watson) I try not to get caught up with what Athletes do in their own time.

I don't even watch interviews or talk shows.

When he was close to retirement, I remember a co-worker saying he thought Paul Pierce sounded like a douche in interviews and I remembered thinking (despite watching a lot of Boston games because Pierce was a former Jayhawk), I hadn't ever seen him interviewed.

If athletes commit crimes, they should be prosecuted like anyone else. But why on earth we should think they are better humans, or examples for the community just because of some natural athletic ability and ungodly paycheck is beyond me.

And if it was up to me, I wouldn't exactly encourage the hero worship by trotting the players around to schools and whatnot. Because than what the hell do you do when shock of all shock (I'm absolutely shocked I tell you!) they don't all turn out to be choir boys!!!

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm a huge Tyreek Hill fan so you don't have to convince me.

I'm just laughing at stevie's hypocrisy. He's talking about how NFL players should be choir boys due to how much they get paid and lamenting how we, as fans, have lowered the bar for them. Whole time he's cheering for a team that employs Tyreek Hill, Frank Clark, Willie Gay,etc. as well as a coach who clearly has some issues raising functional children.

Who cares about any of that? Not me, but apparently stevie does. It's just amusing.

I for one, felt that Willie Gay's assault of that defenseless vacuum cleaner was reprehensible, and it is so hard to watch the Kansas City Chiefs now.

#believeallhouseholdappliances