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Old 06-13-2022, 10:13 AM  
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Old 06-13-2022, 02:27 PM   #91
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I must have completely deleted Kareem Hunt from my memory.
Damien Williams was a very good back for us similar to what McKinnon gave us
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Old 06-13-2022, 02:29 PM   #92
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I still can't figure out why we let Damien Williams walk..

Were we really that confident in the RB room after seeing a full season of CEH and Darrel Williams? 'Cause ain't no ****ing way lol..
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Old 06-13-2022, 02:32 PM   #93
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Old 06-13-2022, 02:50 PM   #94
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Old 06-13-2022, 03:09 PM   #95
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30 years old next season - he's probably getting near washed in his own right.

But as I said when we let him walk - the need to dump on Williams to justify the pick of CEH was bothersome to me. Williams was a very good player here who provided an element that was sorely needed last season - speed to the edge and broken field running.

I'm not sure he'd STILL be an upgrade over anybody we have here, but he would've been last year, yes.
Oh yeah, we are of one mind on this. I liked Damien Williams a lot. I was one pointing to his stats when Kareem was out that we wouldn't have that big of a drop off. And in some games - mostly the super bowl - we didn't.

But we went up to the mountains for Memorial Day and ended up watching a bunch of old Chiefs games on youtube. Man... Williams was far better than CEH, and Hunt was far better than Williams.

It's sad that we invested a first round pick in RB and it's still a weakness. Love the strategy, hate the execution.
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Old 06-13-2022, 03:13 PM   #96
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Which still wouldn't be true. Mckinon was good in the post season but bad like a whole combined 200 yards in the regular + post season
He obviously wasn't picking up the offense in the RS and not getting the touches because of it.
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Old 06-13-2022, 03:18 PM   #97
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Oh yeah, we are of one mind on this. I liked Damien Williams a lot. I was one pointing to his stats when Kareem was out that we wouldn't have that big of a drop off. And in some games - mostly the super bowl - we didn't.

But we went up to the mountains for Memorial Day and ended up watching a bunch of old Chiefs games on youtube. Man... Williams was far better than CEH, and Hunt was far better than Williams.

It's sad that we invested a first round pick in RB and it's still a weakness. Love the strategy, hate the execution.
The strategy of drafting a rb in the first round?
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Old 06-13-2022, 03:23 PM   #98
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I just hope the chiefs demand legit rb competition for the #1 RB. It shouldn’t be CEHs job to lose. It should be his to earn. Shelve McKinnon for much of the season and use him as a third down back. Keep Pacheco on the PS. Force jones and ceh to earn their touches and assume 50/50 in the beginning.
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Old 06-13-2022, 03:30 PM   #99
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:00 PM   #100
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He obviously wasn't picking up the offense in the RS and not getting the touches because of it.
I thought maybe they might've been sandbagging him a bit based in his injury history and some of Andy's past tendencies.
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:15 PM   #101
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I thought maybe they might've been sandbagging him a bit based in his injury history and some of Andy's past tendencies.
Yes I am sure a little of that too.
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:17 PM   #102
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:28 PM   #103
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Yes I am sure a little of that too.
You're right it's probably a mix of both actually.
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:43 PM   #104
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Agreed.

Seems like it's him vs. Pacheco for the final RB slot and McKinnon was EASILY the best pure RB we had last year. He also demonstrated good pass-catching skills and solid Pass pro.

Durability is his biggest issue and we have the RB depth to deal with that.

And he's the kind of guy who is just as likely to get a soft-tissue hammy pull in practice as he is to blow his ACL on his 28th carry of a game. So when he's healthy, ride him. I'm not sure workload even matters with a guy like him.

So smoke it when you got it. I'd give Jones some 1st down work I guess, but 2nd and 3rd downs would be McKinnon until he breaks.

I'm just writing CEH off until he proves me wrong. He got EXCEPTIONAL run-blocking last year when you look up the 'expected YPC' figures. And he didn't even manage to get JAG level returns on it. He got less than his expected yards per carry. That's just damn rough.

If he takes the job back - bully. But I'm done counting on him for anything unless/until he forces my hand.
Him vs Pacheco? Er no. Him versus Gore more like. Pacheco has been impressing in camp according to Pete Sweeney plus he's the best blocker and special teams player in the RB room with another added bonus of being by far the fastest too.
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Him vs Pacheco? Er no. Him versus Gore more like. Pacheco has been impressing in camp according to Pete Sweeney plus he's the best blocker and special teams player in the RB room with another added bonus of being by far the fastest too.
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