***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Just vaccination. The BS thing about it was Merriflield basically said he would get vaxxed if he played for a team that had to go to Canada for playoffs. Big F U to the royals.

You sound like an overweight wife.

"I can't believe you said that I need to lose weight!"
"Well you do. I don't love you any less but we both know that you need to."

[lawrenceRaider]

Tested positive for COVID this morning. Felt just a bit of sinus congestion yesterday morning, but it cleared up fairly quickly and it isn't unusual for me this time of year.

Yesterday afternoon about 4:30 I started having a pounding headache, took a Tylenol,, and started feeling slightly worse as the evening progressed. Mostly pressure in my head and then a low grade fever. Went bed about 8:30 and woke up shivering uncontrollably at 10:30 with a fever at 101.9. Added an extra blanket and covered up and fell back asleep waking up at 1:30 feeling really really hot. Took my temp again and it was 102.9. Took another Tylenol, was really hungry so I ate a banana, and then fell back asleep without any covers. Woke up again this morning about 4:30 and mostly feel fine. Just a slight feeling of pressure in my sinuses. Fever is 100.9.

Feeling better the longer I'm up, so hoping it continues this way.

[chinaski]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Tested positive for COVID this morning. Felt just a bit of sinus congestion yesterday morning, but it cleared up fairly quickly and it isn't unusual for me this time of year.

Yesterday afternoon about 4:30 I started having a pounding headache, took a Tylenol,, and started feeling slightly worse as the evening progressed. Mostly pressure in my head and then a low grade fever. Went bed about 8:30 and woke up shivering uncontrollably at 10:30 with a fever at 101.9. Added an extra blanket and covered up and fell back asleep waking up at 1:30 feeling really really hot. Took my temp again and it was 102.9. Took another Tylenol, was really hungry so I ate a banana, and then fell back asleep without any covers. Woke up again this morning about 4:30 and mostly feel fine. Just a slight feeling of pressure in my sinuses. Fever is 100.9.

Feeling better the longer I'm up, so hoping it continues this way.

Get better! My fever hovered in the 102 range for about 3-4 days, and seemed to get worse at night. Had night sweats as well. Sheets were soaked. Gross.

Mine was more upper respiratory, still dealing with a small cough few weeks later.

[lawrenceRaider]

My fever has now dropped to 99.4 and I haven't had any pain reliever since 1:30am. I'm amazed at how well I feel considering how badly I felt last night/over night.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Get better! My fever hovered in the 102 range for about 3-4 days, and seemed to get worse at night. Had night sweats as well. Sheets were soaked. Gross.

Mine was more upper respiratory, still dealing with a small cough few weeks later.

My cough lingered for quite some time. Also, sorry, I accidentally down voted while scrolling.

[dirk digler]

My daughter who was on the Covid unit since the beginning and never got Covid just got it last week. She said it was awful and almost went to the hospital because her oxygen got below 90. She is young and fully vaccinated so now I am back to worrying about covid. Been hearing more of this from fully vaccinated co workers as well who just had a terrible experience so this new variant must be a real bitch.

Since I am tad over 50 going to get my 2nd booster tomorrow I think. Maybe mix it up and get Moderna.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

My daughter who was on the Covid unit since the beginning and never got Covid just got it last week. She said it was awful and almost went to the hospital because her oxygen got below 90. She is young and fully vaccinated so now I am back to worrying about covid. Been hearing more of this from fully vaccinated co workers as well who just had a terrible experience so this new variant must be a real bitch.

Since I am tad over 50 going to get my 2nd booster tomorrow I think. Maybe mix it up and get Moderna.

The dominant variant, B5, doesn't care about prior infection immunity from even the B3 variant or vaccination immunity.

Just had a bunch of coworkers who went to a convention in Florida who all had four shots come back really sick with COVID.

[O.city]

Wife and one of the kids had it a few weeks ago. Wife had had 2 shots and covid back in January.

Me and the boys didn't get it that we know of. I had covid back in January.

Who knows. Take care of yourselves.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by O.city

Wife and one of the kids had it a few weeks ago. Wife had had 2 shots and covid back in January.

Me and the boys didn't get it that we know of. I had covid back in January.

Who knows. Take care of yourselves.

My wife had it beginning of June, but no one else in the house got it from her.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The dominant variant, B5, doesn't care about prior infection immunity from even the B3 variant or vaccination immunity.

Just had a bunch of coworkers who went to a convention in Florida who all had four shots come back really sick with COVID.

That's not entirely true..

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....11.22277448v1

Effectiveness of a previous pre-Omicron infection against symptomatic BA.4/BA.5 reinfection was 15.1% (95% CI: -47.1-50.9%), and against any BA.4/BA.5 reinfection irrespective of symptoms was 28.3% (95% CI: 11.4-41.9%). Effectiveness of a previous Omicron infection against symptomatic BA.4/BA.5 reinfection was 76.1% (95% CI: 54.9-87.3%), and against any BA.4/BA.5 reinfection was 79.7% (95% CI: 74.3-83.9%). Results using all diagnosed infections when BA.4/BA.5 dominated incidence confirmed the same findings. Sensitivity analyses adjusting for vaccination status confirmed study results. Protection of a previous infection against BA.4/BA.5 reinfection was modest when the previous infection involved a pre-Omicron variant, but strong when the previous infection involved the Omicron BA.1 or BA.2 subvariants.

Qatar is an interesting study though. Their population is quite young. This may not translate well to everywhere else.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

My fever has now dropped to 99.4 and I haven't had any pain reliever since 1:30am. I'm amazed at how well I feel considering how badly I felt last night/over night.

Glad your fever broke quickly. Hopefully you'll be back to 100% soon

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

That's not entirely true..

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....11.22277448v1



Qatar is an interesting study though. Their population is quite young. This may not translate well to everywhere else.

15.1%? That's not very good.

Misread that, sorry. 79.7% is pretty darn good. Though I wonder about it since they've said otherwise on the nightly news and other sources I've read.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

Glad your fever broke quickly. Hopefully you'll be back to 100% soon

I had a brief sweat about the time I woke up. Haven't checked on temp, but headache is basically non-existent right now, and no pain reliever since 1:30am.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

15.1%? That's not very good.

That's for a pre Omicron infection. Delta, The OG strain, etc.

80% protection against a previous Omicron infection. And that's vs a symptomatic infection. That's quite good.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

That's for a pre Omicron infection. Delta, The OG strain, etc.

80% protection against a previous Omicron infection. And that's vs a symptomatic infection. That's quite good.

Yeah, I edited my post after you quoted me.