***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by loochy

You sound like an overweight wife.

"I can't believe you said that I need to lose weight!"
"Well you do. I don't love you any less but we both know that you need to."

Stop projecting. No one cares how fat your wife is.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Stop projecting. No one cares how fat your wife is.

So a player admits his team sucks. Are you going to be ok?

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The dominant variant, B5, doesn't care about prior infection immunity from even the B3 variant or vaccination immunity.

Just had a bunch of coworkers who went to a convention in Florida who all had four shots come back really sick with COVID.

I don't know. I think anyone who really hadn't had any form of covid or vaccination and got hit with B5 would likely have a greater chance of ending up in a hospital or morgue. But not many people left in that category.

A booster can ramp up your system for a couple of months but, yeah, no guarantees.

I still hope that they can come up with a more broad vaccination that will also work on future variations and those of us who still trust science can be done with getting sick once or twice a year.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Yeah, I edited my post after you quoted me.

There is another pre-print out of Denmark today. 94% against symptomatic infection if you've had 3 shots and an omicron infection.
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Will be interesting to see how long that holds up.

94% is money

[chinaski]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

My cough lingered for quite some time. Also, sorry, I accidentally down voted while scrolling.

No worries on the down vote, and yeah...The coughing part really sucks still. I'm pretty much back to normal though. Never lost my sense of taste or smell.

[Pablo]

I'm back in the saddle again.

Just felt a little tired on Monday. After work Tuesday I felt hot and ran a 101 temp. Did the whole night sweats/shakes thing Tues night and then slept most of Wednesday. I was awake at 430 this morning just coughing a little, but overall I feel like I do when I have a solid head cold today.

I got the OG shit back in 2020 and it wrecked me pretty good for a week, don't know what this one holds in store but it can't be shit compared to that based on early returns.

I am interested to see how well I do after this. Got the OG, J&J one shot then got this new variant now. I'm guessing I've run the gamut and it's all gravy now, but I work in a huge office so I'm always gonna get some shit just from touching door handles and elevator buttons.

[jdubya]

Day 1:
Cindy Brady sniffles. Body has mild case of the eebie jeebies. No fever. Dry annoying cough and very mild head ache. I did sleep a ton today as it felt like I hadn’t slept in months. Felt great.

[Redbled]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

My daughter who was on the Covid unit since the beginning and never got Covid just got it last week. She said it was awful and almost went to the hospital because her oxygen got below 90. She is young and fully vaccinated so now I am back to worrying about covid. Been hearing more of this from fully vaccinated co workers as well who just had a terrible experience so this new variant must be a real bitch.

Since I am tad over 50 going to get my 2nd booster tomorrow I think. Maybe mix it up and get Moderna.

Friend is an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins. I’m close to your age. She recommended I wait till fall since the vaccine they are working on now should do much better against the new strain.

[BigCatDaddy]

I haven't followed this much. If I took the OG vax 18 months ago am I still good?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I haven't followed this much. If I took the OG vax 18 months ago am I still good?

Which vax? Did you get a booster? How many times have you had covid and when was the last time you caught it?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

Which vax? Did you get a booster? How many times have you had covid and when was the last time you caught it?

Moderna. I think twice and the last time was February. Not boosted.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Moderna. I think twice and the last time was February. Not boosted.

I'm not a medical doctor. And this should not be taken as medical advice. This is only my opinion based upon data.

Based on the information we have now, I'd top off with a 3rd shot of the Moderna. This is pretty dependant on your age and overall risk factors though. I don't think it's absolutely critical that you do so, but if you had no issues with the first 2, there's really no downside to a 3rd.

You've also had 2 presumed cases of natural infection. This certainly counts for something, and is a big reason why I don't think it's critical for you to get a 3rd shot.

tl;dr - get a 3rd shot if you want/ if you are older or have risk factors for severe disease. You're likely well protected from severe disease already with the 2 shots you've had + natural infection.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I haven't followed this much. If I took the OG vax 18 months ago am I still good?

Ask your doctor

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The dominant variant, B5, doesn't care about prior infection immunity from even the B3 variant or vaccination immunity.

Just had a bunch of coworkers who went to a convention in Florida who all had four shots come back really sick with COVID.

That appears to be the case unfortunately. I was really hoping once the vaccines came out this would all end or make it a nuisance at best. ****ing virus

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Redbled

Friend is an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins. I’m close to your age. She recommended I wait till fall since the vaccine they are working on now should do much better against the new strain.

That was my plan as well but I decided to get the 4th shot this morning but with Moderna this time.