***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

That appears to be the case unfortunately. I was really hoping once the vaccines came out this would all end or make it a nuisance at best. ****ing virus

So do you think it was pretty shitty for company's to fire people that didn't get the vaccine in hindsight?

[jdubya]

My wife and kids all had the rona 3 weeks ago. Symptomatic for a few days and then all was well. Yesterday I test positive with minor symptoms. What is their immunity now? Has anybody heard of people getting the rona back to back within weeks?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by jdubya

My wife and kids all had the rona 3 weeks ago. Symptomatic for a few days and then all was well. Yesterday I test positive with minor symptoms. What is their immunity now? Has anybody heard of people getting the rona back to back within weeks?

Can it happen? Yes. Is it typical? No. It'd be pretty unlucky for them to get it again so soon.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

That's for a pre Omicron infection. Delta, The OG strain, etc.

80% protection against a previous Omicron infection. And that's vs a symptomatic infection. That's quite good.

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

There is another pre-print out of Denmark today. 94% against symptomatic infection if you've had 3 shots and an omicron infection.
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Will be interesting to see how long that holds up.

94% is money

Originally Posted by jdubya

My wife and kids all had the rona 3 weeks ago. Symptomatic for a few days and then all was well. Yesterday I test positive with minor symptoms. What is their immunity now? Has anybody heard of people getting the rona back to back within weeks?

Check out my quoted posts.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So do you think it was pretty shitty for company's to fire people that didn't get the vaccine in hindsight?

The original vaccine saved lives against the original virus.

And although a majority got infected anyway, those that were vaccinated had a lower death rate.

Although people like to forget, or were willfully ignorant, there were periods when the ER rooms and nurses couldn't keep up and it was affecting even sick people without covid.

The vaccinated were less likely to end up hospitalized and taking up nursing staff, especially during the original epidemic.

My mom's hip surgery got repeatedly delayed because hospitals were overwhelmed and backlogged from the affects of covid.

I think trying to slow that down and save lives was not a shitty thing to do.

Each to their own.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Day 1:
Cindy Brady sniffles. Body has mild case of the eebie jeebies. No fever. Dry annoying cough and very mild head ache. I did sleep a ton today as it felt like I hadn’t slept in months. Felt great.

Day 2:

Slightly more nasal congestion but headache is gone and I wasn’t as fatigued today. Actually did a little house and yard work. Did run a low grade fever during the night but nothing remarkable. Still a run of the mill chest cold so far.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So do you think it was pretty shitty for company's to fire people that didn't get the vaccine in hindsight?

Definitely no. There are laws in various states and most if not all healthcare providers require to be vaccinated against the flu or they won't be working which has way less accuracy than the Covid vaccines.

Getting people vaccinated saved millions of lives so no.

[Donger]

For those who are going to get boosters, would you mind taking a look at the label(s) particularly if you're getting Pfizer, and see if it is labeled Comirnaty?

Thanks.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So do you think it was pretty shitty for company's to fire people that didn't get the vaccine in hindsight?

I have seen what happens to a supply chain because of a Covid outbreak. It’s one thing for office workers to get it. But one person getting it then spreading it to a whole floor of manufacturing workers and shippers is another thing entirely.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

For those who are going to get boosters, would you mind taking a look at the label(s) particularly if you're getting Pfizer, and see if it is labeled Comirnaty?

Thanks.

This feels like a BEP question...

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

This feels like a BEP question...

Lol. I called my local pharmacy and asked if the Pfizer vials are labeled Comirnaty and after a long pause she said "Yes, they are..." So I'm curious to see if anyone can confirm.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Day 2:

Slightly more nasal congestion but headache is gone and I wasn’t as fatigued today. Actually did a little house and yard work. Did run a low grade fever during the night but nothing remarkable. Still a run of the mill chest cold so far.

Day 3:

Last night dry sore throat kept me awake but today was more typical of a bad allergy day. Mostly sneezing and blowing my nose. I think this has pretty much run it’s course and I am planning on going back to normal routine tomorrow.

So readers digest version: symptoms Wednesday afternoon, slept like the dead on Thursday, Friday cough/cold symptoms and today seasonal allergy type of day.

Tomorrow back to normal routine

[BigCatDaddy]

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[Chiefs4TheWin]

I didn't get checked out but I think I got it about 2 months ago (no worries I no contacted) Cough lasted a fricken ice age and I was sick sick (like ultra bad cold) for about 3 weeks. Was 2nd wave vacced (school priority) but never boosted.

Shit was rough but feel normal now. Never been sick that long in my entire life. I didn't think it'd end. That cough was never ending.

Edit: I got the J&J vac.

[chinaski]

Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin

I didn't get checked out but I think I got it about 2 months ago (no worries I no contacted) Cough lasted a fricken ice age and I was sick sick (like ultra bad cold) for about 3 weeks. Was 2nd wave vacced (school priority) but never boosted.

Shit was rough but feel normal now. Never been sick that long in my entire life. I didn't think it'd end. That cough was never ending.

Edit: I got the J&J vac.

I'm about 3 weeks out from having it. Was sick for about a week. Still have a nagging cough, mucus etc but feel fine otherwise. It's annoying.