Football Black Hole Delusions: Faiders mortally wound the Chiefs (funny read) - Page 2

T-post Tom · 11:19 PM

(Apologies in advance for the emoji overuse. Couldn't help myself.)

Demarcus Robinson Left Kansas City Chiefs for Las Vegas Raiders
Demarcus Robinson snubbed the Kansas City Chiefs when he signed with the Las Vegas Raiders, and he sure is glad that he did.

HENDERSON, Nev.-The Las Vegas Raiders owner Mark Davis raided the New England Patriots to get Josh McDaniels to come to the desert to run the Silver and Black.

Following his lead, McDaniels and Ziegler dealt a brutal blow

to their fellow AFC arch-rival the Kansas City Chiefs when they signed free agent WR Demarcus Robinson.

Shortly after signing Robinson, the Raiders' brain trust

then signed Davante Adams. Not only was the signing of Adams a monumental move for the Silver and Black, but his contract also sent the Chiefs' plans of signing star WR Tyreek Hill spiraling off course.

There is no way that the Chiefs would have let Robinson go,

had they thought they would lose Hill, and now the Raiders by signing Robinson, and Hill, have mortally wounded the Chiefs' perennial stronghold on the AFC West crown.

Wide Receiver Demarcus Robinson

Q: Having played with the Chiefs, is it still an adjustment to put on the Silver and Black and seeing things from this side?

Robinson: “Yeah, the last six years I looked at the Raiders as a rivalry. But now I call it home, so it’s just good to get in here and get acquainted with all the players and start learning the playbook.”

Q: Could you see the improvements this team was making from your vantage point when you were with the Chiefs ?

Robinson: “Yes, very much so. Guys are in here competing and trying to make the team better every day.”

Q: What jumps out about this offense that you’re trying to pick up? What do you like about it? First takeaways from the system?

Robinson: “It was just different than where I came from. Great offense. A lot of places to be moved around so you can make multiple plays in the slot, outside. So, just trying to learn everywhere so I can be everywhere on the field.”

Q: What’s it like being part of such a competitive wide receiver room?

Robinson: “It’s good, man. It’s a lot of great guys on the field, so it opens up a lot. It shouldn’t be too hard to get open.”

Q: Anything in particular that you’ve taken from Davante Adams in your short time together?

Robinson: “Oh yes, everything. Davante and I would say Hunter [Renfrow]. Davante has got nice releases, everybody knows that. Taking a lot of stuff from him. Late hands, catching the ball, how to track the ball. There is a lot of stuff you can learn from both of those guys.”

Q: How explosive can this offense be?

Robinson: “It could be just as explosive as any offense in the league. That’s what we are working towards right now. Just trying to get acquainted with everybody, so everybody can be on the same page.”

Q: As a receiver how do you kind of maximize the opportunities you get when you are coming into a room with so many guys that draw targets?

Robinson: “Yeah, that’s a good thing for me and other guys on the team. Once somebody else is getting a lot of targets like Davante, Hunter, Darren [Waller], then it just opens it up for whoever else is on the field trying to get one-on-one type coverage because those guys probably will be double covered if not once probably most of the time.”

Q: What was your outside view of Derek Carr after playing against him the past six years?

Robinson: “Nice, smart guy, always looking to make the right plays. We are growing together right now.”

Q: When you sized up your opportunities when you hit free agency, what about this particular team stood out for you?

Robinson: “Just opportunity. Josh [McDaniels] gave me a great opportunity to come here to be able to play with a great group of guys, and it’s just going to be able to open stuff up for me to be able to make plays happen for this team also.”

Q: How was the first day in pads?

Robinson: “It was nice. It was a bit humid today. It’s usually dry out here and we don’t usually get that much sweat in, but today it was pretty humid. It felt like Florida.”

Q: Did you feel any extra level of competition and intensity with the pads?

Robinson: “Oh, yeah. Once you get the pads on it turns into more intense and more physical ball, and that’s what we look forward to, trying to get that physicalness going on and I think we did pretty good after today.”

Q: How is this heat compared to what you felt in Missouri (with the Chiefs) this time of year?

Robinson: “Honestly, this is probably the hottest place I’ve ever lived in. Missouri gets it, but snow, sleet, hail, rain, all that type of weather. And here it’s hot. Straight hot.”

Q: What are your observations on the loaded AFC West division?

Robinson: “I don’t even know about any other teams. I’m just focusing on us.”

Hondo smoking the meth...
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**New World Order** · 07-29-2022, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Haha, DeMarcus "two yards forward, three yards back" Robinson

Demarcus "Let me run with one hand on the ball while I waive it wildly in the air" Robinson

Eureka · 07-29-2022, 08:41 AM

From my understanding he is going to be buried on the depth chart. Probably will see limited targets this year.

Raiders have potential this year to be a very good team.

Eureka · 07-29-2022, 08:42 AM

From my understanding he is going to be buried on the depth chart. Probably will see limited targets this year.

Raiders have potential this year to be a very good team.

jettio · 07-29-2022, 08:44 AM

Robinson had some huge games against the Raiders.

Catching Mahomes 50th TD on an 89-yard TD in the 2018 finale was awesome.

And he had a huge game on that last NFL game played on a field with the MLB dirt infield not sodded over in 2019.

SuperBowl4 · 07-29-2022, 08:53 AM

"a brutal blow"

TEX · 07-29-2022, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka

From my understanding he is going to be buried on the depth chart. Probably will see limited targets this year.

Raiders have potential this year to be a very good team.

Yep. I think they, not the Chargers, are the biggest threat to win the division.

**PHOG** · 07-29-2022, 09:10 AM

Ol' Backtrack Robinson. Brutal blow indeed.

rtmike · 07-29-2022, 09:12 AM

At least I won't worry about us resigning him @ 53 cut downs like I've seen mentioned online.

Eureka · 07-29-2022, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtmike

At least I won't worry about us resigning him @ 53 cut downs like I've seen mentioned online.

That is not off the table. He could be cut by the Raiders.

TomBarndtsTwin · 07-29-2022, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio

Robinson had some huge games against the Raiders.

Catching Mahomes 50th TD on an 89-yard TD in the 2018 finale was awesome.

And he had a huge game on that last NFL game played on a field with the MLB dirt infield not sodded over in 2019.

This is probably why some might think the signing was so impactful. He always seemed to have decent games against the Faid, but was garbage against everyone else. Of course, that had more to do with the Faid's awful defense than it did DRob's skills as a receiver. But whatever.

Pablo · 07-29-2022, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka

From my understanding he is going to be buried on the depth chart. Probably will see limited targets this year.

Raiders have potential this year to be a very good team.

Yeah, but they're the Raiders. So they probably won't be.

mabbott · 07-29-2022, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka

From my understanding he is going to be buried on the depth chart. Probably will see limited targets this year.

Raiders have potential this year to be a very good team.

I guess I have to be the voice of reason. I live in Northern California and the Raiders are on TV here all the time. I watch them more that I want to. They have had a ridiculously talented team for years and should have been performing better than they have. This year is no different, they are loaded talent wise but need to prove that they can stick together for an entire season.

Our division is loaded, other teams have to prove that they can beat the Chiefs not the other way around. The Raiders are pretty much what they were last year, close but fall apart. Carr is a great QB that seems to fall apart at the worst possible times.

We will see what happens when the real games start, but I hear what you are saying EVERY year out here.

kccrow · 07-29-2022, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Oh no, how will we ever survive losing the most under-productive WR I've ever seen. The ****ing guy played almost 60% of our offensive snaps and had 25 catches. Playing with the best QB and HC in what is one of the most pass heavy teams in the league. He had single coverage every play because he had the best TE ever and most dangerous WR ever and the ****ing loser could only manage 25 catches in damn near 700 snaps.

Whatever will we do. The

sure ****ed us over!

Yup. Can't believe how shitty he was here.

Eureka · 07-29-2022, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabbott

I guess I have to be the voice of reason. I live in Northern California and the Raiders are on TV here all the time. I watch them more that I want to. They have had a ridiculously talented team for years and should have been performing better than they have. This year is no different, they are loaded talent wise but need to prove that they can stick together for an entire season.

Our division is loaded, other teams have to prove that they can beat the Chiefs not the other way around. The Raiders are pretty much what they were last year, close but fall apart. Carr is a great QB that seems to fall apart at the worst possible times.

We will see what happens when the real games start, but I hear what you are saying EVERY year out here.

I think the X factor is going to be Josh McDaniel's and if he can put this team over the "hump" so to speak. They have the talent.

jettio · 07-29-2022, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

This is probably why some might think the signing was so impactful. He always seemed to have decent games against the Faid, but was garbage against everyone else. Of course, that had more to do with the Faid's awful defense than it did DRob's skills as a receiver. But whatever.

Folks around here that do not know shit about tackle football as played in the National Football League like to criticize Robinson, but being the 14th WR drafted in the 2016 draft, four players drafted ahead of him have been better and Tyreek Hill is the only player drafted after him that has accomplished more.

1 15 CLE Corey Coleman
1 21 HOU Will Fuller
1 22 WAS Josh Doctson
1 23 MIN Laquon Treadwel
2 40 NYG Sterling Shepard
2 47 NOR Michael Thomas
2 55 CIN Tyler Boyd
3 85 HOU Braxton Miller
3 86 MIA Leonte Carroo
4 107 BAL Chris Moore
4 112 NWE Malcolm Mitchell
4 114 CLE Ricardo Louis
4 117 LAR Pharoh Cooper
4 126 KAN Demarcus Robinson
5 140 TEN Tajae Sharpe
5 154 CLE Jordan Payton
5 163 GNB Trevor Davis
5 165 KAN Tyreek Hill
5 172 CLE Rashard Higgins
6 180 MIN Moritz Boehringer
6 186 MIA Jakeem Grant
6 192 BUF Kolby Listenbee
6 199 CIN Cody Core
6 206 LAR Mike Thomas
6 213 SFO Aaron Burbridge
7 225 NWE Devin Lucien
7 229 PIT Demarcus Ayers
7 230 CHI Daniel Braverman
7 238 ATL Devin Fuller
7 241 NYJ Charone Peake
7 243 SEA Kenny Lawler

For the dollars he has been paid, he has been pretty solid ROI for the Chiefs and Raiders are not paying him much and he will likely provide very good ROI for them.

07-28-2022, 11:10 PM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1747293	Black Hole Delusions: Faiders mortally wound the Chiefs (funny read) (Apologies in advance for the emoji overuse. Couldn't help myself.) Demarcus Robinson Left Kansas City Chiefs for Las Vegas Raiders Demarcus Robinson snubbed the Kansas City Chiefs when he signed with the Las Vegas Raiders, and he sure is glad that he did. HENDERSON, Nev.-The Las Vegas Raiders owner Mark Davis raided the New England Patriots to get Josh McDaniels to come to the desert to run the Silver and Black. Following his lead, McDaniels and Ziegler dealt a brutal blow to their fellow AFC arch-rival the Kansas City Chiefs when they signed free agent WR Demarcus Robinson. Shortly after signing Robinson, the Raiders' brain trust then signed Davante Adams. Not only was the signing of Adams a monumental move for the Silver and Black, but his contract also sent the Chiefs' plans of signing star WR Tyreek Hill spiraling off course. There is no way that the Chiefs would have let Robinson go, had they thought they would lose Hill, and now the Raiders by signing Robinson, and Hill, have mortally wounded the Chiefs' perennial stronghold on the AFC West crown. Wide Receiver Demarcus Robinson Q: Having played with the Chiefs, is it still an adjustment to put on the Silver and Black and seeing things from this side? Robinson: “Yeah, the last six years I looked at the Raiders as a rivalry. But now I call it home, so it’s just good to get in here and get acquainted with all the players and start learning the playbook.” Q: Could you see the improvements this team was making from your vantage point when you were with the Chiefs ? Robinson: “Yes, very much so. Guys are in here competing and trying to make the team better every day.” Q: What jumps out about this offense that you’re trying to pick up? What do you like about it? First takeaways from the system? Robinson: “It was just different than where I came from. Great offense. A lot of places to be moved around so you can make multiple plays in the slot, outside. So, just trying to learn everywhere so I can be everywhere on the field.” Q: What’s it like being part of such a competitive wide receiver room? Robinson: “It’s good, man. It’s a lot of great guys on the field, so it opens up a lot. It shouldn’t be too hard to get open.” Q: Anything in particular that you’ve taken from Davante Adams in your short time together? Robinson: “Oh yes, everything. Davante and I would say Hunter [Renfrow]. Davante has got nice releases, everybody knows that. Taking a lot of stuff from him. Late hands, catching the ball, how to track the ball. There is a lot of stuff you can learn from both of those guys.” Q: How explosive can this offense be? Robinson: “It could be just as explosive as any offense in the league. That’s what we are working towards right now. Just trying to get acquainted with everybody, so everybody can be on the same page.” Q: As a receiver how do you kind of maximize the opportunities you get when you are coming into a room with so many guys that draw targets? Robinson: “Yeah, that’s a good thing for me and other guys on the team. Once somebody else is getting a lot of targets like Davante, Hunter, Darren [Waller], then it just opens it up for whoever else is on the field trying to get one-on-one type coverage because those guys probably will be double covered if not once probably most of the time.” Q: What was your outside view of Derek Carr after playing against him the past six years? Robinson: “Nice, smart guy, always looking to make the right plays. We are growing together right now.” Q: When you sized up your opportunities when you hit free agency, what about this particular team stood out for you? Robinson: “Just opportunity. Josh [McDaniels] gave me a great opportunity to come here to be able to play with a great group of guys, and it’s just going to be able to open stuff up for me to be able to make plays happen for this team also.” Q: How was the first day in pads? Robinson: “It was nice. It was a bit humid today. It’s usually dry out here and we don’t usually get that much sweat in, but today it was pretty humid. It felt like Florida.” Q: Did you feel any extra level of competition and intensity with the pads? Robinson: “Oh, yeah. Once you get the pads on it turns into more intense and more physical ball, and that’s what we look forward to, trying to get that physicalness going on and I think we did pretty good after today.” Q: How is this heat compared to what you felt in Missouri (with the Chiefs) this time of year? Robinson: “Honestly, this is probably the hottest place I’ve ever lived in. Missouri gets it, but snow, sleet, hail, rain, all that type of weather. And here it’s hot. Straight hot.” Q: What are your observations on the loaded AFC West division? Robinson: “I don’t even know about any other teams. I’m just focusing on us.” Hondo smoking the meth... https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/the-black-hole-plus/demarcus-robinson-davante-adams-derek-carr-darre-waller-hunter-renfrow-las-vegas-raiders Last edited by T-post Tom; 07-28-2022 at 11:19 PM..
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07-29-2022, 08:41 AM	#17
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07-29-2022, 08:42 AM	#18
Eureka C Chiefs once a year! Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Cali Casino cash: $-1353903	From my understanding he is going to be buried on the depth chart. Probably will see limited targets this year. Raiders have potential this year to be a very good team.
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07-29-2022, 08:44 AM	#19
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