8/7/22 Training Camp Discussion

[Buehler445]

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[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Peters got beat a lot too in 1 on 1s.

He shined getting INTs in team period.

McDuffie isn't a ballhawk like Peters, but he isn't going to get beat as often and will usually be in better position.

Both of these guys are/were really great young corners though that witchin the scheme playing teams are going to shine, regardless of what happens in 1 on 1s.

That’s all fair, but I saw rookie Peters in camp.

He had a lot of growing to do but you could tell he was going to be a mother****er on the field.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Peters got beat a lot too in 1 on 1s.

I really don't give a shit about 1v1's tbh. This isn't a bunch of dudes at the park or backyard football.

Corners are at such a disadvantage in 1v1's that i kind of give the side eye to receivers when they don't win the route.

It's good to see DB's win that kind of stuff, but i don't walk away pissed at DB's when they don't.

IMO, 1v1's say more about the receiver than the corner.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I really don't give a shit about 1v1's tbh. This isn't a bunch of dudes at the park or backyard football.

Corners are at such a disadvantage in 1v1's that i kind of give the side eye to receivers when they don't win the route.

It's good to see DB's win that kind of stuff, but i don't walk away pissed at DB's when they don't.

IMO, 1v1's say more about the receiver than the corner.

Me either, and like the Chiefs have said, McDuffie's struggles haven't come in team, just 1 on 1s. That's why I disagree that he's been disappointing.

I don't think they're disappointed, quite the contrary based on reports. We shouldn't be either.

[Hammock Parties]

mcduffie is the best corner on the team

come at me

[Hammock Parties]

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[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

That’s all fair, but I saw rookie Peters in camp.

He had a lot of growing to do but you could tell he was going to be a mother****er on the field.

And I've been watching McDuffie going back 2 years, and based on that and everything I've seen/heard throughout TC, he's going to be really ****ing good too.

And to say he "isn't ready" is absolutely foolish.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

And none of them ever lived up to their potential.

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[AdolfOliverBush]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

alpha

Interesting. I hadn't seen Jackie Joyner Kersee in quite some time.

[Hammock Parties]

that's thicc bolton

[-King-]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

And none of them ever lived up to their potential. I'll take my chances with a very talented 1st round pick who isn't making people spontaneously cum during the first week of training camp.

Wut

[AdolfOliverBush]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You could make an argument that Flowers hit his ceiling, but Peters and Berry? Not even close.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

It’s important that you guys understand something. My analysis is not based on one day — the one day was informative, but the cheese does not stand alone.

If I went out and practiced, you guys would immediately know in one practice that I played bad in practice because of problems that I will simply not bounce back from. I’m too small, I’m not fast enough, everybody is stronger than me. You saw one practice but you know I’m doomed.

Now McDuffie is 100 times the athlete I was in my prime, but the principle is the same. If McDuffie is losing due to technique (which he did), that’s fixable. If he loses due to some more natural issues (which he did), than the mountainside is going to be a lot steeper. There are some things he can do to negate the size differential, but there not as much he can do to correct a lack of makeup speed. And right now he’s still leaning on some hedging cheats he relied on in college.

Most of those issues are fixable, which is why I don’t think he’s a busy. But I saw such an array of issues, almost a different one every snap, that suggests he has a lot of building to do. The thought of him going up against Keenan Allen terrifies me.

If I’m wrong, fine. But what I’ve said is not entirely out of step with what the team has said and what some media personalities have reported. But it does run against conventional wisdom, so heads will explode.

Time will tell.

I hope your whole report is wrong. It was 20 paragraphs of doom and gloom. Feels like we are about to become the Jags or Jets.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Me either, and like the Chiefs have said, McDuffie's struggles haven't come in team, just 1 on 1s. That's why I disagree that he's been disappointing.

I don't think they're disappointed, quite the contrary based on reports. We shouldn't be either.

When i say "disappointing" i really mean in relation to some of the DB's we've had in the past. You'd like to see an Eric Berry or Marcus Peters like camp. The fact that he hasn't is what's disappointing.

But i'm not going to sit here and overly judge a kid that we haven't even see play in a preseason game yet.

That's dumb shit.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

You could make an argument that Flowers hit his ceiling, but Peters and Berry? Not even close.

Berry had nothing to do with ability though. When he was healthy and played, he absolutely delivered on the hype.

As did Marcus Peters. Now Peters was an immature dipshit, but he was a game changing corner.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I hope your whole report is wrong. It was 20 paragraphs of doom and gloom. Feels like we are about to become the Jags or Jets.

Direckshun is almost always doom and gloom.

He's been doing this every offseason in the Mahomes era, while the Chiefs go on to have a great season.