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Phoneix · 02:29 PM

My 2022 Game 1 roster guesses:

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

ST
Butker
Townsend
Winchester

PTW- PS
Crum - PS
Franks - Release
Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS

Just trying to keep up....makes it a little more clear to be able to see needs/wants

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buchele
RB - CEH/Jones/Gore/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Gordon/Powell/Fountain
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Niang/Wylie/Christian/Kinnard
RG - Smith
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretti
LT - OBJ/PTW
LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Kaindoh
WLB - Harris/Chenal
MLB - Bolton/Carter
SLB - Gay/Lee
LCB - Fenton/McDuffie/Bootle/Watson
RCB - Sneed/Baker/Williams/Barcoo/Johnson
SS - Reid/Key/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush/Anderson

Salaries in the spoilers

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.

Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position.

I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility.

Offense -

Quarterbacks (3/2)
• 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5)
• 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000)
• 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)

Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida

• 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500)
• 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M)
• Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M)
• 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825)
• Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705

o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State

• 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M)
• 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M)
• 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M)
• Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K)
• 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K
• 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K
• Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K
• Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K

o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M
o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M
o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M
o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

• 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M)
• 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M)
• 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR
• 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?)
• 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K
• Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K

Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU

• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500)
• Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K
• Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?)

o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M
o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.

Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position.

I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility.

Offense -

Quarterbacks (3/2)
• 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5)
• 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000)
• 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)

Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida

• 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500)
• 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M)
• Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M)
• 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825)
• Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705

o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State

• 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M)
• 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M)
• 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M)
• Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K)
• 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K
• 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K
• Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K
• Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K

o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M
o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M
o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M
o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

• 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M)
• 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M)
• 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR
• 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?)
• 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K
• Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K

Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU

• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500)
• Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K
• Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?)

o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M
o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Phoneix · 08-21-2022, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I think you mostly have it right.

I’d go Coleman over Fountain. I also think we keep 2 QBs and either Stallworth or Shelton on the DL.

Henne and try and sneak Buechele back on the PS or send Henne off to retirement?

smithandrew051 · 08-21-2022, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoneix

Henne and try and sneak Buechele back on the PS or send Henne off to retirement?

I could make a case for either. I’ll defer to the staff on that one.

I’d probably try to sneak Buechele back on the PS. I trust Henne more to win a game for us if needed.

Phoneix · 08-21-2022, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I could make a case for either. I’ll defer to the staff on that one.

I’d probably try to sneak Buechele back on the PS. I trust Henne more to win a game for us if needed.

Ya im not sure I trust Buechele to be the guy just yet

smithandrew051 · 08-21-2022, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoneix

Ya im not sure I trust Buechele to be the guy just yet

I love how our defense looks. Not a lot of stars (for now), but there isn’t a player listed who I hate. I don’t see a single Niemann, Sorensen, Fleming, Scandrick, etc listed.

Love the upside of the 6 corners. The safety room has some bad asses. The linebackers are the best that we’ve seen in a long damn time.

The DL feels much better than it did a couple weeks ago. Dunlap signing is big. Karlaftis is that dude. Saunders has been great. Wharton and Nnadi look active. Jones is inside and dominant. Clark looks faster.

Phoneix · 08-21-2022, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I love how our defense looks. Not a lot of stars (for now), but there isn’t a player listed who I hate. I don’t see a single Niemann, Sorensen, Fleming, Scandrick, etc listed.

Love the upside of the 6 corners. The safety room has some bad asses. The linebackers are the best that we’ve seen in a long damn time.

The DL feels much better than it did a couple weeks ago. Dunlap signing is big. Karlaftis is that dude. Saunders has been great. Wharton and Nnadi look active. Jones is inside and dominant. Clark looks faster.

And 4 TEs. Have we ever carried 4 before?

VAChief · 08-21-2022, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoneix

And 4 TEs. Have we ever carried 4 before?

Didn't we start with 4 last year?

VAChief · 08-21-2022, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I think you mostly have it right.

I’d go Coleman over Fountain. I also think we keep 2 QBs and either Stallworth or Shelton on the DL.

Yeah, we aren't keeping 3 QBs.

TwistedChief · 08-21-2022, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief

Didn't we start with 4 last year?

Yup, and pretty sure we'll be doing it this year unless Bell is injured.

I don't think there's any chance we have 3 QBs and think it's like 80% Henne.

I think Lammons over Bootle more likely than not but unclear.

I have no clue on Coleman vs Fountain.

Ultimately I'm thinking Toub probably makes the decisions for these last roster spots and who knows where he stands.

It feels like a much deeper roster than we've had in years past but it could also be because we just knew how much someone like Neimann was a complete and total liability. Regardless, we got younger, faster, hungrier, and cheaper and there's real value in that.

R Clark · 08-21-2022, 06:36 PM

Haven’t read this whole thread , but the running back group worries me more than the DL and that group was the biggest concern to me when camp started .

Sofa King · 08-21-2022, 07:41 PM

Isn’t Reiter gone?

kccrow · 08-21-2022, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Yup, and pretty sure we'll be doing it this year unless Bell is injured.

I don't think there's any chance we have 3 QBs and think it's like 80% Henne.

I think Lammons over Bootle more likely than not but unclear.

I have no clue on Coleman vs Fountain.

Ultimately I'm thinking Toub probably makes the decisions for these last roster spots and who knows where he stands.

It feels like a much deeper roster than we've had in years past but it could also be because we just knew how much someone like Neimann was a complete and total liability. Regardless, we got younger, faster, hungrier, and cheaper and there's real value in that.

I'm also thinking Lammons over Bootle. Lammons had a nice game yesterday.

kccrow · 08-21-2022, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

Isn’t Reiter gone?

They released him in May but signed him like 3 days later.

**Rain Man** · 08-21-2022, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Yup, and pretty sure we'll be doing it this year unless Bell is injured.

I don't think there's any chance we have 3 QBs and think it's like 80% Henne.

I think Lammons over Bootle more likely than not but unclear.

I have no clue on Coleman vs Fountain.

Ultimately I'm thinking Toub probably makes the decisions for these last roster spots and who knows where he stands.

It feels like a much deeper roster than we've had in years past but it could also be because we just knew how much someone like Neimann was a complete and total liability. Regardless, we got younger, faster, hungrier, and cheaper and there's real value in that.

This Buechele thing has me intrigued. Do we think that he's getting playing time to ...

...consider whether he should be elevated to the #2 position?

or

...showcase him for a trade?

or

...give him developmental playing time because Henne doesn't need game experience?

or

...Buechele won a lunch bet and gets to play?

or

...something else?

I kind of half-wonder if Buechele could be our #2 QB to start the season.

TwistedChief · 08-21-2022, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

This Buechele thing has me intrigued. Do we think that he's getting playing time to ...

...consider whether he should be elevated to the #2 position?

or

...showcase him for a trade?

or

...give him developmental playing time because Henne doesn't need game experience?

or

...Buechele won a lunch bet and gets to play?

or

...something else?

I kind of half-wonder if Buechele could be our #2 QB to start the season.

I think it's because they wanted to give game 2 to him and game 3 to Henne so each player could have a fuller body of work given that it's a Sunday/Thursday game split. But we'll see how Thursday night goes.

Regardless I think the amount of words spilled on this discussion is a major waste of time. If Mahomes goes down, we're totally doomed. Moore and Henne have only really been competent as backups because of Tyreek Hill. That's just the reality. A full set of decent WRs won't make those guys passable QBs that get us near the postseason.

Phoneix · 08-21-2022, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Yup, and pretty sure we'll be doing it this year unless Bell is injured.

I don't think there's any chance we have 3 QBs and think it's like 80% Henne.

I think Lammons over Bootle more likely than not but unclear.

I have no clue on Coleman vs Fountain.

Ultimately I'm thinking Toub probably makes the decisions for these last roster spots and who knows where he stands.

It feels like a much deeper roster than we've had in years past but it could also be because we just knew how much someone like Neimann was a complete and total liability. Regardless, we got younger, faster, hungrier, and cheaper and there's real value in that.

If not 3 QBs who would you keep on the roster instead? Gore?

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