Things I think it's time for:

[Chris Meck]

1. You can't trot Ammendola out again. You just can't. It'd be mutiny. I don't care what you do, you have to cut him and sign someone else. I'd go for two every time and have Reid kick off before I did that again.

2. Justin Watson needs way more snaps. Yes, he could've caught that one ball today, but he's big, he's fast, hes a physical match-up problem, and he usually catches the ball. He was inches away from another big TD today. Play him.

3. It's time to get Pacheco more touches. The midget squad isn't getting it done. It's not all their fault, but at least Pacheco is big and strong enough to maybe break some tackles.

4. It's time to bench Wylie. Wanegho can't be worse, and might have upside. Just do it, for accountability's sake if nothing else.

5. I think it's time to force feed more snaps to Moore. I don't want him returning punts anymore. Put Hardman there, you know what Hardman is, and he's not a route running WR. At least he might break a PR.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It does for Mecole Hardman who is in his 4th season with this QB and offense in general.

But for a rookie who has played 3 NFL games? Really?

He made a bad mistake on ST’a but in the grand scheme of things I don’t care about that. We didn’t draft him to be a returner. I care about what he does on offense.

He's played in as many games for the Chiefs as Watson has.

And if it's a "Andy Reid has a complicated offense" problem, it should be 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other, no?

And again - I'm not even opposed to that justification. Kid may just not be ready to play yet. That's wholly understandable.

But this alternate universe where he WOULD be out there making plays for us if Andy wasn't scared of playing rookies simply doesn't exist.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Remember when NE lost the SB after going 17-0? That was probably the best WR core Brady ever had in NE and yet they lost due to the constant pressure that the Giants put on Brady. He won 6 others with lesser WRs. Elite WRs are nice, but protecting the franchise QB is more important. Mahomes can win a SB with these receivers. Not so sure he can if the OLine continues to struggle, especially at LT.

Are we going to ignore that those Pats teams were constructed entirely differently?

We don't have a top 5 defense and a HOF defensive coordinator/HC to carry our QB.

We have Patrick Mahomes and a HOF Offensive HC.

This team runs through the offense, not the defense. As such, the offense needs to be equipped accordingly.

And using Brady's best season, 17-0 and torched the stat sheet that season, in which he FINALLY got a HOF WR as your example is a bold move.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Mahomes couldn't play?

Can't have it both ways

I shouldn't take this bait, but you know damn well that's an entirely different situation.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So when a guy hit the field and demonstrated that he was immediately capable of making a contribution, Andy Reid found a way to get him the football?

Hmmm.....

The examples sorta speak for themselves, don't they?

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[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Are we going to ignore that those Pats teams were constructed entirely differently?

We don't have a top 5 defense and a HOF defensive coordinator/HC to carry our QB.

We have Patrick Mahomes and a HOF Offensive HC.

This team runs through the offense, not the defense. As such, the offense needs to be equipped accordingly.

And using Brady's best season, 17-0 and torched the stat sheet that season, in which he FINALLY got a HOF WR as your example is a bold move.

This was my argument when everyone wanted to "load up on defense".

[KCUnited]

The Chiefs had a set of plays designed for Skyy Moore this week, but didn't use them.

After playing just two offensive snaps in Week 2, Eric Bieniemy told reporters that wouldn’t be the case for Skyy More in Week 3. Well, it wasn’t the case, but he didn’t exactly get a significant uptick in snaps. He played just eight snaps against the Colts.

So what gives with the rookie wide receiver? According to Andy Reid the team made a concerted effort to get him more involved on offense, but because of the way the game was going, they didn’t get to use some of the plays the team had planned. When the team did get Moore on the field, the defense played it to where he was covered and Mahomes had to go elsewhere with the football.

“Yeah, so we actually had some (plays) in for him this game and it didn’t work out that way,” Reid said. “We didn’t have a ton of first and second down calls and that we’ve got to do better with. And so, his number didn’t get dialed up as much as we wanted and when it did. The defense didn’t play it the way where he would be open.”

Reid and the offensive coaches remain confident that Moore’s time will come eventually, stressing that it’s still very early in the season.

“It’ll come, we’re just through game three,” Reid said. “His time will come. We’ve just got to keep working on it.”

[staylor26]

“It’ll come, we’re just through game three,” Reid said. “His time will come. We’ve just got to keep working on it.”

OMG it's almost as if this is exactly what I've been saying!

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So when a guy hit the field and demonstrated that he was immediately capable of making a contribution, Andy Reid found a way to get him the football?

Hmmm.....

Except for Mahomes apparently

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He's played in as many games for the Chiefs as Watson has.

And if it's a "Andy Reid has a complicated offense" problem, it should be 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other, no?

And again - I'm not even opposed to that justification. Kid may just not be ready to play yet. That's wholly understandable.

But this alternate universe where he WOULD be out there making plays for us if Andy wasn't scared of playing rookies simply doesn't exist.

I don’t think that’s the case. But especially this season it will be harder for a rookie. Hardman is their best bet right now bc he’s got the most experience. Juju and MVS are vets and Watson has been in the NFL for years.

Skyy is not Tyreek. Any comparison to play time is not realistic. He’s the outlier. Not every rookie is gonna be blowing the doors off. Chris Conley’s first 2 games with us had 7% and 2% of the snaps. It just takes time for some dudes.

And honestly with these struggles I’d bet they are leaning on the vets right now to build rhythm.

If Hardman still stinks it up for a few more weeks he’ll be in the doghouse again. Just watch. He got benched for Pringle last year.

We need to revisit this at mid season

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We need to revisit this at mid season

Nah, overreacting 3 games into his career makes way more sense.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I shouldn't take this bait, but you know damn well that's an entirely different situation.

lol. I mean is it really any difference outside of the position? I don't think you can say Reid will get whoever is talented on the field immediately regardless if they are a rookie and ignore the most talented player this franchise has ever had sitting on the bench for a year. They knew in practice he was better than AS.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I don’t think that’s the case. But especially this season it will be harder for a rookie. Hardman is their best bet right now bc he’s got the most experience. Juju and MVS are vets and Watson has been in the NFL for years.

Skyy is not Tyreek. Any comparison to play time is not realistic. He’s the outlier. Not every rookie is gonna be blowing the doors off. Chris Conley’s first 2 games with us had 7% and 2% of the snaps. It just takes time for some dudes.

And honestly with these struggles I’d bet they are leaning on the vets right now to build rhythm.

If Hardman still stinks it up for a few more weeks he’ll be in the doghouse again. Just watch. He got benched for Pringle last year.

We need to revisit this at mid season

Hardman has a bum wheel. Im not sure what people are expecting him to do. Dude took an end-around and then limped off. It's looking like it'll be a pain management thing for him at least for a little while. And he's not a physical guy as it is.

Seems like an excellent chance to give a young guy some reps but that didn't happen.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

OMG it's almost as if this is exactly what I've been saying!

No - you've been saying Andy Reid doesn't play rookies and that's why this turn key ass-kicker isn't making plays.

When it turns out he was TRYING to look for situations to get him the football but because the kid has a limited set of plays he can run at the moment, they weren't able to find the right time. Or when they did 'the defense didn't cooperate'. So for the record, those would've been Mecole Hardman Memorial "Schemed into space" yards so they don't count.

But yeah - you're all over it.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

lol. I mean is it really any difference outside of the position? I don't think you can say Reid will get whoever is talented on the field immediately regardless if they are a rookie and ignore the most talented player this franchise has ever had sitting on the bench for a year. They knew in practice he was better than AS.

And rumors were they wanted to get him on the field. They knew what they had. And suffice to say, a QB has a lot more to learn than a WR.

Never mind the politics at play with Alex Smith.

[RunKC]

Overreaction planet is crazy. Our WR’s suck and nobody got open yesterday except that narrative is completely false. The 2nd and 3rd plays on offense had guys wide open and Patrick missed ‘em.

The OL killed is yesterday. Say what you want about the receivers. No they aren’t Tyreek, but they did get separation at times.

The problem was our OL and RB’s.