Should Teams Still Return Punts?

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by JudasRising20

Meanwhile, there's a much higher likelihood of being penalized, fumbling, or injuries than there is a positive gain.

I don’t believe that is true. A punt return is normally 5 or 10 yards worth of positive yardage. It would be silly to pass that up drive after drive after drive except in situations where the kick or the coverage makes a fair catch the only option, or a touchback is a possibility.

Giving up that many yards over the course of a year because someone might commit a penalty or a turnover is kind of wacky. These are probably more common on plays from scrimmage.

[Wallcrawler]

Imagine having a special teams coach that is so tragi-comically bad at his job, that members of your fanbase question the benefits of returning a punt.

Look inward.

Fire Toub. Hire competent special teams coach and decisionmaker. Bring special teams back to the level of helping your team instead of trying to ritualistically destroy it every time they are called upon to perform.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Imagine having a special teams coach that is so tragi-comically bad at his job, that members of your fanbase question the benefits of returning a punt.

Look inward.

Fire Toub. Hire competent special teams coach and decisionmaker. Bring special teams back to the level of helping your team instead of trying to ritualistically destroy it every time they are called upon to perform.

Dave Toub has been ranked in the top 10 as a ST coach for the last 17 years. In fact, he has been ranked in the top 5 for more than 13 consecutive years, making him the most successful St coach in NFL history.

But yeah, fire him and hire some guy that "is competent."

Lol, what a maroon.

[rabblerouser]

Nah **** it.

Let's play two-hand touch, QB's in a tutu and touching the QB is illegal.

Saying mean things is already illegal, so...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Dave Toub has been ranked in the top 10 as a ST coach for the last 17 years. In fact, he has been ranked in the top 5 for more than 13 consecutive years, making him the most successful St coach in NFL history.

But yeah, fire him and hire some guy that "is competent."

Lol, what a maroon.

Or this too.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Imagine having a special teams coach that is so tragi-comically bad at his job, that members of your fanbase question the benefits of returning a punt.

Look inward.

Fire Toub. Hire competent special teams coach and decisionmaker. Bring special teams back to the level of helping your team instead of trying to ritualistically destroy it every time they are called upon to perform.

You realize Toub is one of the most respected coaches at his position in the league right?? Consistently has had among the best ST units for YEARS. But go on crying...

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

You realize Toub is one of the most respected coaches at his position in the league right?? Consistently has had among the best ST units for YEARS. But go on crying...

If by best, you mean drawing a flag on every return, sure.

That ST performance against the Colts was an abomination.

I don't give a flying shit what you've supposedly done over your career. Toub in recent history has been a flag collecting, dumb decision-making shitshow.

On top of that he appears to have zero common sense whatsoever in telling these returners to take the ball out of the endzone 5 yards deep. Yes, let's make Patrick start from the 12 this drive boys. He can handle it.

That's not how you gain respect abd it's certainly not top 10 st unit coaching. Christ we got Shady Mccoy junior out there returning a kickoff, slips, falls, and fumbles the football with nobody within 10 yards.

Let's be aggressive with guys who can't even handle the complexity of CATCHING the punt to start with.

Now let's run a fake fg where even if it had been caught, it doesn't count, because your unit can't execute without drawing the flag.

Yes. Spectacular coaching from Dave Toub. They lookedlike a bunch of reeruns trying to **** a doorknob.