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Old 10-04-2022, 12:03 PM   #1
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I don't disagree necessarily.

But Travis Kelce is 9-6 in the post-season and has made several MASSIVE plays to propel the Chiefs to victory in those 15 games. Lost in the come-back against Houston was that they simply had NO answer for what he was doing to them. It was dirty. His post-season run during the 'run it back' season is one for the ages.

The Tennessee game completely flipped on its head the moment he went down. He was destroying the Titans and when he got hurt the offense just completely seized up.

What he's done in the post-season has been exceptional.

Tony Gonzalez, OTOH, has a 1-6 record w/ 286 career receiving yards on 41 targets. And 4 of those games came with Matt Ryan under center, 2 of them with Trent Green - these aren't scrubs. And TG averaged 40 receiving yards/gm.

Kelce has 3 separate playoff runs that individually surpass anything Gonzalez did in his entire post-season career. He averages 86 receiving yards/gm. His TD rate goes up over his regular season numbers. He YPG go up. His level of play exceeds his regular season level. TGs didn't. Ever.

Are championships alone dispositive in the discussion? Nah - like I said, I won't use ring counts here. But has Travis Kelce undeniably obliterated TG's post-season resume? Lord, it's not even close. I mean take the 7 WORST games of Kelce's post-season career and he smokes Gonzalez.

And given that the question is 'who was more valuable' - shouldn't the fact that one of them was a damn site harder to deal with when the lights shone brightest count for at least SOMETHING?
Gonzalez only played a few postseason games in KC. He was 21 in 1997. He was green as hell. Caught a TD and had a controversial one called back. I believe he scored the Chiefs only TD in that game.

His next playoff game was 6 years later! Think about that. The infamous "No Punt Game". He did fine in that game. Certainly wasn't his fault the defense couldn't stop Peyton Manning. Does Kelce stop Peyton in that game? Probably not.

His next playoff game was 4 years later! Do you see the pattern here? The infamous Herman Edwards "Run, Run, Pass, Punt" game. He had the team's only TD in garbage time. Sure, he could have played better but the gameplan was vanilla trash that day.

I didn't follow his Atlanta career much. I know he made some Pro Bowls in his later years but his playoff career in KC is not his fault as outlined above.
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