Chris Jones

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Carl Cheffers explanation:

“Even though Carr was being sacked, he deserves the full protection of the RTP”.

Follow up: “Even though it was a fumble”?

Cheffers: “yes”.

Carl Cheffers is obviously a dumb ****.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Carl Cheffers explanation:

“Even though Carr was being sacked, he deserves the full protection of the RTP”.

Follow up: “Even though it was a fumble”?

Cheffers: “yes”.

Even with out the fumble it’s horse shit. I don’t care if the QB is involved or not, it’s tackle football and if you have the ball your ass is fair game to be tackled.

They just continue to erode the integrity of the game. It may not seem possible to most right now but, it is possible to kill the golden goose.

[T-post Tom]

Can't lose sight of the fact that it was a fabulous play by Jones, especially for a big lineman. To strip the ball, maintain possession and to break your fall so as NOT to land on the QB in the process is very athletic. Very impressive.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

When Aikman is telling them to take the skirts off, there's a problem.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/202...night-football

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Kudos to CJ for learning his lesson and keeping his cool, because I was going freaking nuts. If there was ever a play where you could almost forgive a guy getting an unsportsmanlike penalty it was that one. One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. Inexcusable.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

Kudos to CJ for learning his lesson and keeping his cool, because I was going freaking nuts. If there was ever a play where you could almost forgive a guy getting an unsportsmanlike penalty it was that one. One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. Inexcusable.

Some fans actually suggested that the Chiefs quite playing and walk out. Fortunately, our players and coaches are better than that.

[T-post Tom]

Meanwhile, the Chiefs have had plenty of conflicts with Cheffers in the past.

The biggest came during the 2016 playoffs against Pittsburgh, when Cheffers called left tackle Eric Fisher for holding that negated what would have been a tying two-point conversion. The Steelers won 18-16 to advance to the AFC title game, and Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce said Cheffers “shouldn’t even be able to work at ... Foot Locker.”

Their opinion of the referee surely didn’t improve Monday night.



KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Chiefs defensive tackle Chris Jones believes the NFL should allow video review of roughing-the-passer penalties after his controversial call — the second in as many days — nearly cost the Kansas City Chiefs in their come-from-behind 30-29 victory over the Las Vegas Raiders on Monday night.

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The Chiefs had just scored to trim their deficit to 17-7 when Jones stripped Raiders quarterback Derek Carr from behind just before halftime. The Pro Bowl defensive tackle landed on Carr while also coming up with the ball — replays showed it was clearly loose and that Jones cleanly recovered — but referee Carl Cheffers threw a flag for roughing the passer.

The play happened with less than two minutes to go and was not reviewed.

Chiefs coach Andy Reid stormed off the sideline to argue with every official within earshot. And after the teams traded field goals, leaving the Raiders ahead 20-10 at halftime, Reid cornered Cheffers again as they headed to the locker room.

“The quarterback is in the pocket and he’s in a passing posture. He gets full protection of all the aspects of what we give the quarterback in a passing posture,” Cheffers told a pool reporter after the game. “My ruling was the defender landed on him with full body weight. The quarterback is protected from being tackled with full body weight.”

That explanation didn’t sit well in the Kansas City locker room.

Especially with the culprit.

“It’s costing teams games,” Jones said. “How should I tackle people? How should I not roll on him? I’m trying my best. I’m 325 pounds, OK? What do you want me to do? I’m going full speed trying to get the quarterback.”

When players emerged for the second half, Kansas City fans booed Cheffers more loudly than the hated Raiders (1-4), and the call — and the energized Arrowhead Stadium — seemed to galvanize their team. Travis Kelce had three of his fourth TD catches in the second second half and the defense made a stand in the final minute to escape with the win.

“I’ve seen (Reid) angry,” Mahomes said later, “but not about a call on the football field.”

The call came one day after Atlanta defensive tackle Grady Jarrett was flagged by referee Jerome Boger for a seemingly innocuous tackle of Tampa Bay quarterback Tom Brady. The penalty gave the Buccaneers a first down and allowed them to run out the clock on a 21-15 victory, rather than giving the Falcons a chance to drive for the win.

“What I had was the defender grabbed the quarterback while he was still in the pocket, and unnecessarily throwing him to the ground,” Boger told a pool reporter after the game. “That is what I was making my decision based upon.”

The NFL was criticized for its failure to protect quarterbacks after Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa was taken off the field on a stretcher following a violent hit in a game against Cincinnati. Tagovailoa sustained a concussion when his head slammed to the turf on a tackle by the Bengals’ Josh Tupou, who was not flagged on the play.

In the NFL rulebook, it states: “Any physical acts against a player who is in a passing posture (i.e. before, during, or after a pass) which, in the referee’s judgment, are unwarranted by the circumstances of the play will be called as fouls.”

The rulebook also notes: “When in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactic against the quarterback, the referee should always call roughing the passer.”

Jones offered a solution: Allow replays of roughing-the-passer calls.

“Especially in critical situations in games,” he said. “We’ve got to be able to review it in the booth, you know what I mean? I think that’s the next step for the NFL as a whole. If we’re going to call it penalty at that high (of rate), then we’ve got to be able to review it and make sure, because sometimes looks can be deceiving.”

Meanwhile, the Chiefs have had plenty of conflicts with Cheffers in the past.

The biggest came during the 2016 playoffs against Pittsburgh, when Cheffers called left tackle Eric Fisher for holding that negated what would have been a tying two-point conversion. The Steelers won 18-16 to advance to the AFC title game, and Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce said Cheffers “shouldn’t even be able to work at ... Foot Locker.”

Their opinion of the referee surely didn’t improve Monday night.

“You want to protect the players in all aspects of the game, but at the same time, there’s a commonsense factor,” Mahomes said. “The refs watch tape and they practice, just like we do. I’m sure they’ll go back and make the corrections.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nfl/more-officiating-scrutiny-during-raiders-chiefs-mnf-game/2022/10/10/abf98dba-490c-11ed-8153-96ee97b218d2_story.html

[Bump]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Meanwhile, the Chiefs have had plenty of conflicts with Cheffers in the past.

The biggest came during the 2016 playoffs against Pittsburgh, when Cheffers called left tackle Eric Fisher for holding that negated what would have been a tying two-point conversion. The Steelers won 18-16 to advance to the AFC title game, and Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce said Cheffers “shouldn’t even be able to work at ... Foot Locker.”

Their opinion of the referee surely didn’t improve Monday night.



KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Chiefs defensive tackle Chris Jones believes the NFL should allow video review of roughing-the-passer penalties after his controversial call — the second in as many days — nearly cost the Kansas City Chiefs in their come-from-behind 30-29 victory over the Las Vegas Raiders on Monday night.

Have a sports betting question? Submit it here to have it answered by The Post’s Neil Greenberg.

The Chiefs had just scored to trim their deficit to 17-7 when Jones stripped Raiders quarterback Derek Carr from behind just before halftime. The Pro Bowl defensive tackle landed on Carr while also coming up with the ball — replays showed it was clearly loose and that Jones cleanly recovered — but referee Carl Cheffers threw a flag for roughing the passer.

The play happened with less than two minutes to go and was not reviewed.

Chiefs coach Andy Reid stormed off the sideline to argue with every official within earshot. And after the teams traded field goals, leaving the Raiders ahead 20-10 at halftime, Reid cornered Cheffers again as they headed to the locker room.

“The quarterback is in the pocket and he’s in a passing posture. He gets full protection of all the aspects of what we give the quarterback in a passing posture,” Cheffers told a pool reporter after the game. “My ruling was the defender landed on him with full body weight. The quarterback is protected from being tackled with full body weight.”

That explanation didn’t sit well in the Kansas City locker room.

Especially with the culprit.

“It’s costing teams games,” Jones said. “How should I tackle people? How should I not roll on him? I’m trying my best. I’m 325 pounds, OK? What do you want me to do? I’m going full speed trying to get the quarterback.”

When players emerged for the second half, Kansas City fans booed Cheffers more loudly than the hated Raiders (1-4), and the call — and the energized Arrowhead Stadium — seemed to galvanize their team. Travis Kelce had three of his fourth TD catches in the second second half and the defense made a stand in the final minute to escape with the win.

“I’ve seen (Reid) angry,” Mahomes said later, “but not about a call on the football field.”

The call came one day after Atlanta defensive tackle Grady Jarrett was flagged by referee Jerome Boger for a seemingly innocuous tackle of Tampa Bay quarterback Tom Brady. The penalty gave the Buccaneers a first down and allowed them to run out the clock on a 21-15 victory, rather than giving the Falcons a chance to drive for the win.

“What I had was the defender grabbed the quarterback while he was still in the pocket, and unnecessarily throwing him to the ground,” Boger told a pool reporter after the game. “That is what I was making my decision based upon.”

The NFL was criticized for its failure to protect quarterbacks after Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa was taken off the field on a stretcher following a violent hit in a game against Cincinnati. Tagovailoa sustained a concussion when his head slammed to the turf on a tackle by the Bengals’ Josh Tupou, who was not flagged on the play.

In the NFL rulebook, it states: “Any physical acts against a player who is in a passing posture (i.e. before, during, or after a pass) which, in the referee’s judgment, are unwarranted by the circumstances of the play will be called as fouls.”

The rulebook also notes: “When in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactic against the quarterback, the referee should always call roughing the passer.”

Jones offered a solution: Allow replays of roughing-the-passer calls.

“Especially in critical situations in games,” he said. “We’ve got to be able to review it in the booth, you know what I mean? I think that’s the next step for the NFL as a whole. If we’re going to call it penalty at that high (of rate), then we’ve got to be able to review it and make sure, because sometimes looks can be deceiving.”

Meanwhile, the Chiefs have had plenty of conflicts with Cheffers in the past.

The biggest came during the 2016 playoffs against Pittsburgh, when Cheffers called left tackle Eric Fisher for holding that negated what would have been a tying two-point conversion. The Steelers won 18-16 to advance to the AFC title game, and Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce said Cheffers “shouldn’t even be able to work at ... Foot Locker.”

Their opinion of the referee surely didn’t improve Monday night.

“You want to protect the players in all aspects of the game, but at the same time, there’s a commonsense factor,” Mahomes said. “The refs watch tape and they practice, just like we do. I’m sure they’ll go back and make the corrections.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nfl/more-officiating-scrutiny-during-raiders-chiefs-mnf-game/2022/10/10/abf98dba-490c-11ed-8153-96ee97b218d2_story.html

if a ref has it out for a certain team(s), then they probably shouldn't be allowed to ref their games or maybe you know, hold them accountable and fire their ass.

[oldman]

I'm beginning to think the zebras have a grudge with Jones. In light of the Brady incident and tonight's BS, there has to be some kind of review and action taken. BTW, did anyone notice one of the scum trying to spear PMII on a sack after the Jones call? Where was that call?

[KChiefs1]

I thought the Brady penalty was a disgusting call but Cheffers said hold my beer.


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[Imon Yourside]

The only way Chris Jones would be liked by the NFL is if he played on Bradys team. True Starry Brah

[chiefzilla1501]

Maybe this is a cue for fans to be more supportive of jones. Feel like he gets treated unfairly. I always hear comments about how he disappears or takes off plays. He seems to be the first guy people blame when the defense has a shaky few drives. Now the refs are after him because he does too much. I’m still livid about the bullshit taunting penalty - even if I don’t know what he said, refs should not make a game changing call over words. And the roughing call and the holding miss were egregious missed calls.

He’s taken way more bullets from the fan and the nfl, and it’s mostly over nothing. It’s not like the dude doesn’t work hard or is punching people. It’s not like he took his pay day and turned into a fat slob. Sure a contract that size invites criticism but by and large he’s still playing like a star.

It’s hard to forget the look in his eyes after both the taunting and roughing penalties. The dude wasn’t angry. He looked devastated. The guy plays with a lot of heart. It’s time we appreciate him again.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Maybe this is a cue for fans to be more supportive of jones. Feel like he gets treated unfairly. I always hear comments about how he disappears or takes off plays. He seems to be the first guy people blame when the defense has a shaky few drives. Now the refs are after him because he does too much. I’m still livid about the bullshit taunting penalty - even if I don’t know what he said, refs should not make a game changing call over words. And the roughing call and the holding miss were egregious missed calls.

He’s taken way more bullets from the fan and the nfl, and it’s mostly over nothing. It’s not like the dude doesn’t work hard or is punching people. It’s not like he took his pay day and turned into a fat slob. Sure a contract that size invites criticism but by and large he’s still playing like a star.

It’s hard to forget the look in his eyes after both the taunting and roughing penalties. The dude wasn’t angry. He looked devastated. The guy plays with a lot of heart. It’s time we appreciate him again.

Couldn't agree more. Every game matters and he's frequently been our best defensive player. On occasions our ONLY decent defensive player, and he's done enough to win us multiple games when opposing teams know he is literally our entire pass rush.

There's one guy on here who is completely unhinged on Jones. If we're directing vitriol anyone's way let's save it all for Clark and the other turds Jones has to deal with on that DL.

[tyecopeland]

I guess he needed to drop the football he was holding so he could put his second hand down on the ground to keep more of his body weight off carr.

[InChiefsHeaven]

I'm sure there is a tweet of it, but Chris Jones was great when interviewed in the locker room about it. He's a class act, doesn't say anything stupid even though he is constantly being ****ed by the refs. Glad to have him on the team man...