Chris Jones

[Pitt Gorilla]

has possession of the football. How is it theoretically POSSIBLE for there to be "roughing the passer" called on Jones AFTER he has possession?!? I mean, it's literally not POSSIBLE, right?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Well, for instance, the rule isn’t “full” body weight. It is “all or most”. That’s pretty subjective.

CJ sure landed with “most” of his body weight on Carr.

You are definitely being smug

I'm not being smug, just not pretending to be ****ing ignorant.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I'm not being smug, just not pretending to be ****ing ignorant.

The call on Chris Jones comes from the same sentence of the rulebook as the Grady Jarrett call yesterday. But the rule also suggests a player "strive to ... brace his fall with his arms" (as Jones appeared to) -- and doesn't contemplate the defender having become a ball-carrier. pic.twitter.com/djIV9bLtpj

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) October 11, 2022

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by jd1020

How does the rule defy logic?

It's a pretty simple rule. Dont land with your full body weight on the QB. Where's the disconnect in logic?

The issue is that its not reviewable, and even if it were reviewable there would probably be just as many overturned roughing calls as there were overturned PI calls. It's simply a dumb ****ing rule, but it's a pretty simple one.

Jones, clearly, didn't.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

Kudos to CJ for learning his lesson and keeping his cool, because I was going freaking nuts. If there was ever a play where you could almost forgive a guy getting an unsportsmanlike penalty it was that one. One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. Inexcusable.

Some fans actually suggested that the Chiefs quite playing and walk out. Fortunately, our players and coaches are better than that.

[KChiefs1]

I thought the Brady penalty was a disgusting call but Cheffers said hold my beer.


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[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by SupDock

The call on Chris Jones comes from the same sentence of the rulebook as the Grady Jarrett call yesterday. But the rule also suggests a player "strive to ... brace his fall with his arms" (as Jones appeared to) -- and doesn't contemplate the defender having become a ball-carrier. pic.twitter.com/djIV9bLtpj

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) October 11, 2022

I'd like to shove Article 11 (b) up Cheffers' smug ass. Too bad Teicher didn't have that info handy when he interviewed that rat bastard.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Jones, clearly, didn't.

You are saying this with the benefit of a slowmo replay that shows Jones putting his hand down at the last second. I'm not defending the rule or the call. I hate the rule and therefor hate the call. But if you take off your homer glasses and look at it full speed and see Jones landing directly on top of Carr, it's not hard to see where the flag came from given the rule.

It's simply a stupid ****ing rule. Players are going to land ontop of eachother sometimes and you just need to ask yourself if there was intent in causing harm like the guy tackling someone is quite literally pile driving them into the ground with the full force of his body. Even in full speed you can tell there was no intent to do that in that play.

[Imon Yourside]

The only way Chris Jones would be liked by the NFL is if he played on Bradys team. True Starry Brah

[chiefzilla1501]

Maybe this is a cue for fans to be more supportive of jones. Feel like he gets treated unfairly. I always hear comments about how he disappears or takes off plays. He seems to be the first guy people blame when the defense has a shaky few drives. Now the refs are after him because he does too much. I’m still livid about the bullshit taunting penalty - even if I don’t know what he said, refs should not make a game changing call over words. And the roughing call and the holding miss were egregious missed calls.

He’s taken way more bullets from the fan and the nfl, and it’s mostly over nothing. It’s not like the dude doesn’t work hard or is punching people. It’s not like he took his pay day and turned into a fat slob. Sure a contract that size invites criticism but by and large he’s still playing like a star.

It’s hard to forget the look in his eyes after both the taunting and roughing penalties. The dude wasn’t angry. He looked devastated. The guy plays with a lot of heart. It’s time we appreciate him again.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You are saying this with the benefit of a slowmo replay that shows Jones putting his hand down at the last second. I'm not defending the rule or the call. I hate the rule and therefor hate the call. But if you take off your homer glasses and look at it full speed and see Jones landing directly on top of Carr, it's not hard to see where the flag came from given the rule.

It's simply a stupid ****ing rule. Players are going to land ontop of eachother sometimes and you just need to ask yourself if there was intent in causing harm like the guy tackling someone is quite literally pile driving them into the ground with the full force of his body. Even in full speed you can tell there was no intent to do that in that play.

There is plenty in the rules for the refs to judge intent. He wasnt lunging or going for a kill shot. Sure it’s a bang bang play but it isn’t so fast that you can miss BOTH him bracing himself for the fall and more importantly that he had the ****ing ball. So you’re adding 2 key elements to an already highly questionable call

But worse, how are you supposed to expect chris jones to play? The rules say to move the qb so you don’t fall on him but he saw grady Jarrett do just that and get accused by the refs of whipping the guy down. I’m struggling to figure out how you bring a guy down if you’re stripped of those 2 options.

And man the nfl has better figure this out before next Sunday because we cannot have our DL uncertain about how to tackle josh Allen who you aren’t going to easily just “turn to the side”

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Maybe this is a cue for fans to be more supportive of jones. Feel like he gets treated unfairly. I always hear comments about how he disappears or takes off plays. He seems to be the first guy people blame when the defense has a shaky few drives. Now the refs are after him because he does too much. I’m still livid about the bullshit taunting penalty - even if I don’t know what he said, refs should not make a game changing call over words. And the roughing call and the holding miss were egregious missed calls.

He’s taken way more bullets from the fan and the nfl, and it’s mostly over nothing. It’s not like the dude doesn’t work hard or is punching people. It’s not like he took his pay day and turned into a fat slob. Sure a contract that size invites criticism but by and large he’s still playing like a star.

It’s hard to forget the look in his eyes after both the taunting and roughing penalties. The dude wasn’t angry. He looked devastated. The guy plays with a lot of heart. It’s time we appreciate him again.

Couldn't agree more. Every game matters and he's frequently been our best defensive player. On occasions our ONLY decent defensive player, and he's done enough to win us multiple games when opposing teams know he is literally our entire pass rush.

There's one guy on here who is completely unhinged on Jones. If we're directing vitriol anyone's way let's save it all for Clark and the other turds Jones has to deal with on that DL.

[tyecopeland]

I guess he needed to drop the football he was holding so he could put his second hand down on the ground to keep more of his body weight off carr.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There is plenty in the rules for the refs to judge intent. He wasnt lunging or going for a kill shot. Sure it’s a bang bang play but it isn’t so fast that you can miss BOTH him bracing himself for the fall and more importantly that he had the ****ing ball. So you’re adding 2 key elements to an already highly questionable call

But worse, how are you supposed to expect chris jones to play? The rules say to move the qb so you don’t fall on him but he saw grady Jarrett do just that and get accused by the refs of whipping the guy down. I’m struggling to figure out how you bring a guy down if you’re stripped of those 2 options.

And man the nfl has better figure this out before next Sunday because we cannot have our DL uncertain about how to tackle josh Allen who you aren’t going to easily just “turn to the side”

ya he's been nothing but a straight beast for us, I think he deserves at least a hall of fame nomination once his career is over and I hope he retires a Chief. Like you said, he didn't get paid and then stop caring like we've seen before especially with d-linemen.

[InChiefsHeaven]

I'm sure there is a tweet of it, but Chris Jones was great when interviewed in the locker room about it. He's a class act, doesn't say anything stupid even though he is constantly being ****ed by the refs. Glad to have him on the team man...

[tyreekthefreak]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven

I'm sure there is a tweet of it, but Chris Jones was great when interviewed in the locker room about it. He's a class act, doesn't say anything stupid even though he is constantly being ****ed by the refs. Glad to have him on the team man...

He said something stupid to Matt Ryan!!!!!