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Old 10-12-2022, 02:18 PM  
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Don't blame MEH for his performance Monday night
I'm no fan of MEH and I never have been, so its hard for me to say this, but his lack of production in the run game on Monday night is on the OL. They did an atrocious job of blocking for him. My initial reaction from the game was that he just had one of his typical shitty games that we have grown accustom to seeing from him, but a look into the stats show that the offensive line failed him.

Clyde had 9 carries for a total of 15 yds, but the most telling stat is his yards before contact (YBC). In his career he has averaged 2.3 YBC/ATT, but Monday night he only had 6 yards before contact on 9 rushes. That comes out to 0.3 YBC/ATT and that means he was getting his pretty much at the line of scrimmage every single play. That is the 2nd lowest YBC/ATT for his entire career and the only game that was less? The Colts game a couple weeks back. In that game he had -6 YBC on 7 rushes. That comes out to -0.9 YBC/ATT.

So lets try to stop blaming him so much for his crappy stats on Monday, because the OL didn't help him even a little.
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Old 10-12-2022, 07:59 PM   #76
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Y'all need to give Clyde a break. He's a league leader. Oh, I should tell what stat? Running into offensive line men's rears.
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Old 10-12-2022, 11:55 PM   #77
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Old 10-13-2022, 12:13 AM   #78
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He read it. You're just an idiot.
Ok what's wrong with my post?

Don't worry, I'm not expecting an intelligent rebuttal, because youre not an intelligent person.
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Old 10-13-2022, 12:46 AM   #79
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Like the word.

'Meh'

Per Websters:

"Used to express indifference or mild disappointment; not impressive"

No better word has ever existed to describe Clyde. He's not great; not ghastly. He's unimpressive and mildly disappointing.

He is meh.
Average in every sense of the word. He doesn't even know how to use his blockers correctly. I remember one screen pass (which was a big gain) he ran right by the lineman instead of staying behind them and letting them take on the defenders for a bigger gain.

Priest Holmes was probably watching the gane like 'Man didn't they show this dude my tape?'

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Clyde was Mahomes' pick.

Andy asked Reid who Mahomes wanted, and Mahomes chose wrong.

Shoulda chose Jonathan Taylor.
Hopefully that never happens again. Mahomes is a QB, not a scout. Veach should be asking the scouts their opinion, not Mahomes.
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Old 10-13-2022, 05:04 AM   #80
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My guess is like 'bleh'.
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Um, it's like when you're non-committal about something.

Like eating at Cracker Barrel.

Your girl goes "hey babe, you wanna eat at Cracker Barrel?"

And the only real response is "meh."

Because, while Cracker Barrel isn't downright terrible...it's not really what you're craving, nor what your body needs to perform at its highest potential...but you can eat it, and it will produce a turd in the end.

So, CEH = Cracker Barrel in this scenario.

CEH = MEH
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Like the word.

'Meh'

Per Websters:

"Used to express indifference or mild disappointment; not impressive"

No better word has ever existed to describe Clyde. He's not great; not ghastly. He's unimpressive and mildly disappointing.

He is meh.
Lol! I'm very familiar with the word. Went right over my head as I was thinking it was a typo at first, but he kept using it. And I was reading it as individual letters M-E-H, like C-E-H, and never read it a a word!

Very appropriate renaming of CEH!
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Old 10-13-2022, 05:08 AM   #81
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Let's face it - Nick is sensationalizing him. He's just above average (if that) compared to other backs in the league.
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Old 10-13-2022, 05:29 AM   #82
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I don’t think Andy trusts Pacheco to not fumble. That would be the only explanation. Maybe pass blocking or something I guess
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Old 10-13-2022, 05:50 AM   #83
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At the end of the day, whos better than who overall doesn't mean shit. All that matters is who is doing better that day. Just ride the hot hand.

But it seems like Reid and EB are trying to force CEH into being the hot hand so even in games he's not doing well in, they keep putting him out in high leverage situations.
That’s the part that drives me nuts. I get sticking with ceh in games like Arizona and Tampa. I get if all RBs are getting stuck. I couldn’t for the life of me understand how you close the first half with McKinnon being clearly the hot hand and yet we made zero adjustments out of halftime and stuck with ceh to predictable results.
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I don’t think Andy trusts Pacheco to not fumble. That would be the only explanation. Maybe pass blocking or something I guess
Yep. Hopefully he gets it fixed because the kids ceiling is high. Will he reach it is the question..
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:38 AM   #85
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Let's face it - Nick is sensationalizing him. He's just above average (if that) compared to other backs in the league.
Hey boo, what Nick is getting at is, though he may be "just above average (if that) compared to other backs in the league, he is far and away the best RB on the Chiefs roster.

That's all.
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That’s the part that drives me nuts. I get sticking with ceh in games like Arizona and Tampa. I get if all RBs are getting stuck. I couldn’t for the life of me understand how you close the first half with McKinnon being clearly the hot hand and yet we made zero adjustments out of halftime and stuck with ceh to predictable results.
So...did you watch either Cincy game last season?

What about the Colts playoff loss at the end of the 2013 season?

How about the Super Bowl loss?

Our coaching staff is weird, and don't really do many in-game adjustments unless it's to go away from the running game when it's been working and they've built up a lead.
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I don’t think Andy trusts Pacheco to not fumble. That would be the only explanation. Maybe pass blocking or something I guess
I think it's pass pro, to be honest. CEH and McKinnon have both been solid there.
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I don’t think Andy trusts Pacheco to not fumble. That would be the only explanation. Maybe pass blocking or something I guess
He hasn't really developed patience in allowing his blocks to develop and his vision on where to go hasn't been great. Not unheard of for a rookie HB. That should improve with time.

One of the reasons he looked so good vs. TB is there was no question where to go or what gap to hit. Holes were blown wide open and IIRC they weren't zone blocking most of the time.
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I think it's pass pro, to be honest. CEH and McKinnon have both been solid there.
Man, there have been a couple of plays where Pacheco has had to pass block and he's done a damn good job.

I know that situational moments for the few snaps he sees the field is different than being the main RB and showing you can do it every down you're asked to, but he hasn't demonstrated or shown any dumbass rookie moments in that area yet.
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