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LongSufferingToady · 10-17-2022, 02:08 PM

Von Miller walked behind the lectern inside the tight quarters of a room reserved for a Bills news conference, less than half an hour after his team beat the Chiefs here at Arrowhead Stadium. He began with an opening statement, of sorts. “Howdy,” he said, and then he offered a grin. “I came in this stadium a whole bunch of times, and I’ve been at this same podium, and I ain’t have no smile. So it’s good to come in here and smile.”

For years, the Denver Broncos could not beat the Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs with Von Miller at this stadium, but on Sunday, the Bills would not have won without him. The marriage has helped form the team that is intentionally and blatantly built to beat the Chiefs, future ramifications be damned. But with a payoff. The Chiefs are no longer the best team in the NFL — a home defeat did not produce that statement, but rather cemented it. That title belongs to the Bills now, and for evidence, don’t look at the fact they won, but rather how they won.

Josh Allen was nails on the game-winning two-minute drill, which absorbed the kind of inevitability Patrick Mahomes has so often delivered others. But Allen was nails last time the Bills visited Kansas City. The difference this time? Their defense got the stop it could not get here in January. That was Miller’s doing, and it’s the reason the Bills felt comfortable paying a 33-year-old edge rusher $45 million guaranteed this summer, even if it means he will still be eating up cap space at age 37.

The final impact play reads as a Mahomes interception into the arms of Bills cornerback Taron Johnson, but Miller wrecked the play with pressure inside the edge of right tackle Andrew Wylie, forcing Mahomes into a throwing window he did not plan.

One drive earlier, Miller sacked Mahomes to end a drive the Chiefs would also like back. He is a difference-maker on a team that spent an offseason knowing it was 13 seconds shy of beating the Chiefs in January — heck, knowing it has spent the last two summers with a lot of time to dwell on the Kansas City Chiefs.

That’s the way it works now. The title of best-team-in-football will change course over the next decade, with the Chiefs glued to that mix, but the Patrick Mahomes Era will always include a general manager out there somewhere, constructing the blueprint of a roster to take him out, even if it means sacrificing part of his future to do it. The Bills are this year’s version, and maybe next year’s version, and maybe the version over the next few years.

But for the duration of Mahomes’ 10-year contract, there will be others. This is a new norm, a new reality confronting the Chiefs that is more complimentary than it appears on the face of it. The Bills do not care if Miller’s contract puts them in cap hell in two years, when he’s 35 and earns $22 million — he is the over-the-top addition to win games like the one they won Sunday. Or to win the exact game they won Sunday. And it worked. But barely.

It’s a weird spin to put a moral victory on a Mahomes loss — the Chiefs are not some sort of lovable underdogs, even if they were underdogs on this field Sunday for the first time in Mahomes’ career. While that’s not the intention, not all losses are created equally.

Three weeks ago in Indianapolis, the Chiefs looked capable of losing to just about anybody. On Sunday, the team that has eyed them for two offseasons with all resources on deck needed a lot of things to go right in the fourth quarter. This felt like a coin-toss game — though not quite as literally as last time.

The Chiefs are certainly not miles away, even after implementing an inverse offseason strategy, extending their championship window at the expense of a short-term hit. The gap between the Bills and Chiefs appears more razor-thin than I anticipated, and if you don’t expect they’ll get another shot, I’d like to see which team you think will get that shot at the Bills in the postseason.

“I think you just want to win, just because you’re a competitor and you know you’re playing the best of the best — and you feel like you’re the best of the best,” Mahomes said. “You wanna win those games. “At the end of the day, that’s something you gotta reiterate to the guys in the locker room — it’s one game in the regular season that you wanted to win, felt like you could win and you didn’t. So how are you going to respond?” The broader point is this: If you felt like the Chiefs could win the Super Bowl before Sunday, and count me on that list, why would a late interception do anything to change that?

The reverberation of the outcome is not that the Chiefs can no longer accomplish everything on their preseason goals list — rather, it’s that for the first time since Mahomes became the franchise quarterback, he might need to go on the road to accomplish them. The Bills have a leg up on the race for homefield.

But otherwise, nobody needs a reminder that the Chiefs lost this same game, which arrived in similar timing on the schedule, just a year ago. In a much worse fashion, to boot. And then they won the rematch. A lot can happen between now and the time the playoffs arrive — three months can resemble a lifetime in football — so a rematch is not guaranteed. But there’s not another team in the AFC that belonged on the field with either of these teams. There is, however, a key difference if they do meet again — a difference that could become more convention, less abnormal.

They’ll be the underdogs.

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arrwheader · 10-17-2022, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

So my question is this. I’m not exactly happy with the work Veach has done, but at the end of the day I do understand the Chiefs are in the midst of a reload. My question is, Mahomes’ contract is here to stay. They no longer have a QB on a rookie contract, and soon neither will the Bills. That being said, do we think KC will take the slow and steady approach and be content with having a chance nearly every year, or do we see KC going “all in” from time to time and capitalizing with a Von Miller-esque addition or two to put them over the top?

I think the Chiefs largely are trying the soft rebuild approach and will continue that. We don't have a LT for the future, don't have much at WR past this year, don't have much at DE, Aging at the TE position quickly. We have to hit on draft picks and that is hard to do when drafting at the bottom every year. That being said, hard to go all in on a few pieces when you have so many holes to fill. Again you hit on draft picks at a few places then maybe you free up the resources to do so. Stagger your contracts on good players that are worth it. That is likely the way it goes forward, we will remain competitive and hope we can gradually fill holes and then make some acquisitions when the time is right. With the most important position filled, QB, and one as good as mahomes you can do that.

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2022, 02:45 PM

ready for the jets to wake these clowns up

big nasty kcnut · 10-17-2022, 02:45 PM

there is no new reality we lost one game. we will be fine.

UK_Chief · 10-17-2022, 02:46 PM

Injuries can change everything in an instant. Teams evolve over the season and of course there are still trades and FA moves. It ain’t won until it’s won

dlphg9 · 10-17-2022, 02:52 PM

I didn't read that whole nonsense shit. The Chiefs lost a regular season game. Big ****ing deal. The Bills can have there regular season best team in the NFL title. Lots of season left to play and both teams will probably lose more than 1 game.

I hate stupid ****ing articles like this that make big deals out of games that don't have much meaning.

Coochie liquor · 10-17-2022, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LongSufferingToady

Don't know how you guys will take this article, but Wylie was pushed all over the field. Von Miller made a huge difference for the Bills.

Exactly why Veach needs to allocate some funds and bring Suh in. We’re getting shit for pressure, and Suh next to Jones would be a very big problem for most teams to deal with.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 10-17-2022, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LongSufferingToady

Don't know how you guys will take this article, but Wylie was pushed all over the field. Von Miller made a huge difference for the Bills.

Von Miller had 2 sacks on 5 total pressures. He is a hall of famer, but it wasn't as bad as many think...

Andoverer · 10-17-2022, 03:01 PM

Last year at this time the defense looked like hot garbage and our offense kept shooting itself in the foot. There was just an odd awful feeling of letdown going on. Even I, as much of a homer as ever was, thought that was finally going to be our off year and the playoffs looked like a pipe dream. But the light came on for both sides of the ball and we once again improbably made it to the AFC championship game. After that season I'm a lot calmer about this squad because I think we are better than last year's team overall.

As somebody somewhere once said..."We'll be fine"

**srvy** · 10-17-2022, 03:02 PM

Oh look a KC Star hit piece surprise surprise. Neg for posting that rag-ass fish paper.

ChiefsCountry · 10-17-2022, 03:05 PM

OKchiefs · 10-17-2022, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Allen is on his second contract too

But his cap hit hasn’t quite jumped yet, that will happen next year

Kman34 · 10-17-2022, 03:12 PM

Blah, Blah, Blah… Its the 6th week of a 17 week season..

ku_jhawk23 · 10-17-2022, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LongSufferingToady

Then you're really an imbecile. It's a good article.

It's not really a good article at all. It was from the KC Star which automatically makes it trash. It talks about how we lost to the Bills last year, but guess who won when it mattered. We lost on crap playcalling. If everyone is going to adjust to Mahomes, aren't they going to adjust to Allen, just like Brady, Manning, Rogers, et al? The Chiefs lost against a great corner playing multiple first year secondary players. Whoever wrote this article has no clue. If the BS push off on Kelce isn't called, what is the article then?

comochiefsfan · 10-17-2022, 03:26 PM

The new reality is we no longer have "the guy" at QB in the NFL.

Buffalo does.

For the first time in the Mahomes Era, we will have to find a way to beat a team in the playoffs that has an advantage over us at the QB position.

It's going to be a tall task for Reid, and I'm afraid we are lacking the personnel around Mahomes to help push him above Allen.

There's a long way to go until January though.

Why Not? · 10-17-2022, 03:30 PM

Not sure why anyone is knocking the article? It's basically saying what all the level headed members of CP (the minority, I know) are saying. The Chiefs lost the game but the Bills needed a lot to go right. The Bills and Chiefs are far and away the best teams in at least the AFC. The Chiefs might have to go to Buffalo for a rematch. There is a long way to go so a lot can happen. The Bills and other teams will go all in for as long as Mahomes is around.

Good, solid article. Anyone hating on it either just doesn't like the KC Star (understandable) or doesn't like the OP (I have no opinion on that one). The article itself is good.

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LongSufferingToady Old, not Dead Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Where the Buffalo Roam... Casino cash: $9160400	Why the Chiefs face a new reality in the Patrick Mahomes Era after this loss to Bills Von Miller walked behind the lectern inside the tight quarters of a room reserved for a Bills news conference, less than half an hour after his team beat the Chiefs here at Arrowhead Stadium. He began with an opening statement, of sorts. “Howdy,” he said, and then he offered a grin. “I came in this stadium a whole bunch of times, and I’ve been at this same podium, and I ain’t have no smile. So it’s good to come in here and smile.” For years, the Denver Broncos could not beat the Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs with Von Miller at this stadium, but on Sunday, the Bills would not have won without him. The marriage has helped form the team that is intentionally and blatantly built to beat the Chiefs, future ramifications be damned. But with a payoff. The Chiefs are no longer the best team in the NFL — a home defeat did not produce that statement, but rather cemented it. That title belongs to the Bills now, and for evidence, don’t look at the fact they won, but rather how they won. Josh Allen was nails on the game-winning two-minute drill, which absorbed the kind of inevitability Patrick Mahomes has so often delivered others. But Allen was nails last time the Bills visited Kansas City. The difference this time? Their defense got the stop it could not get here in January. That was Miller’s doing, and it’s the reason the Bills felt comfortable paying a 33-year-old edge rusher $45 million guaranteed this summer, even if it means he will still be eating up cap space at age 37. The final impact play reads as a Mahomes interception into the arms of Bills cornerback Taron Johnson, but Miller wrecked the play with pressure inside the edge of right tackle Andrew Wylie, forcing Mahomes into a throwing window he did not plan. One drive earlier, Miller sacked Mahomes to end a drive the Chiefs would also like back. He is a difference-maker on a team that spent an offseason knowing it was 13 seconds shy of beating the Chiefs in January — heck, knowing it has spent the last two summers with a lot of time to dwell on the Kansas City Chiefs. That’s the way it works now. The title of best-team-in-football will change course over the next decade, with the Chiefs glued to that mix, but the Patrick Mahomes Era will always include a general manager out there somewhere, constructing the blueprint of a roster to take him out, even if it means sacrificing part of his future to do it. The Bills are this year’s version, and maybe next year’s version, and maybe the version over the next few years. But for the duration of Mahomes’ 10-year contract, there will be others. This is a new norm, a new reality confronting the Chiefs that is more complimentary than it appears on the face of it. The Bills do not care if Miller’s contract puts them in cap hell in two years, when he’s 35 and earns $22 million — he is the over-the-top addition to win games like the one they won Sunday. Or to win the exact game they won Sunday. And it worked. But barely. It’s a weird spin to put a moral victory on a Mahomes loss — the Chiefs are not some sort of lovable underdogs, even if they were underdogs on this field Sunday for the first time in Mahomes’ career. While that’s not the intention, not all losses are created equally. Three weeks ago in Indianapolis, the Chiefs looked capable of losing to just about anybody. On Sunday, the team that has eyed them for two offseasons with all resources on deck needed a lot of things to go right in the fourth quarter. This felt like a coin-toss game — though not quite as literally as last time. The Chiefs are certainly not miles away, even after implementing an inverse offseason strategy, extending their championship window at the expense of a short-term hit. The gap between the Bills and Chiefs appears more razor-thin than I anticipated, and if you don’t expect they’ll get another shot, I’d like to see which team you think will get that shot at the Bills in the postseason. “I think you just want to win, just because you’re a competitor and you know you’re playing the best of the best — and you feel like you’re the best of the best,” Mahomes said. “You wanna win those games. “At the end of the day, that’s something you gotta reiterate to the guys in the locker room — it’s one game in the regular season that you wanted to win, felt like you could win and you didn’t. So how are you going to respond?” The broader point is this: If you felt like the Chiefs could win the Super Bowl before Sunday, and count me on that list, why would a late interception do anything to change that? The reverberation of the outcome is not that the Chiefs can no longer accomplish everything on their preseason goals list — rather, it’s that for the first time since Mahomes became the franchise quarterback, he might need to go on the road to accomplish them. The Bills have a leg up on the race for homefield. But otherwise, nobody needs a reminder that the Chiefs lost this same game, which arrived in similar timing on the schedule, just a year ago. In a much worse fashion, to boot. And then they won the rematch. A lot can happen between now and the time the playoffs arrive — three months can resemble a lifetime in football — so a rematch is not guaranteed. But there’s not another team in the AFC that belonged on the field with either of these teams. There is, however, a key difference if they do meet again — a difference that could become more convention, less abnormal. They’ll be the underdogs. Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy
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Why Not? In Search of a Life Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $-491006	Not sure why anyone is knocking the article? It's basically saying what all the level headed members of CP (the minority, I know) are saying. The Chiefs lost the game but the Bills needed a lot to go right. The Bills and Chiefs are far and away the best teams in at least the AFC. The Chiefs might have to go to Buffalo for a rematch. There is a long way to go so a lot can happen. The Bills and other teams will go all in for as long as Mahomes is around. Good, solid article. Anyone hating on it either just doesn't like the KC Star (understandable) or doesn't like the OP (I have no opinion on that one). The article itself is good.
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