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Old 07-14-2020, 11:51 AM  
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Veach is the best GM in the NFL
I don’t think it’s even debatable at this point
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Old 10-17-2022, 03:01 PM   #1216
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Well, yeah. That's a much easier problem to fix than shit at both T spots which we're dealing with now.
Don't really think it's a difficultly issue as much as it's a quantity issue at this point. Too many things need a fixin' at once and only so much capital.

They will fix the tackle spots, too.
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Old 10-17-2022, 03:02 PM   #1217
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Without the benefit of hindsight who would you draft at LT? We also would not have gotten Creed and or Bolton. Which LT should the Chiefs draft this year? It’s easy to criticize on what should have been in hindsight.
You can go back and read to verify, I was pounding the table for Rashawn Slater and was comfortable giving up more than the Mahomes package to get him.
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Old 10-17-2022, 03:09 PM   #1218
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If you had to list the 3 most important guys in the building for our success you'd probably say:

- Mahomes
- Reid
- Veach (for his role in getting Mahomes) or Hunt (for bringing in Reid)

Right? I think that's absolutely how it should be. The guy who wins you games, the guy who puts him in a position to succeed, and the guys who got those guys.

In all honesty I think Veach's legacy starts now. If he effectively builds a roster that is enough to win a SB with a QB earning top dollar, that's when he's elevated alongside Reid and Mahomes. If not, he's like every GM, important, possibly very good, but a distant 3rd of 4th in the pecking order of who is responsible for this golden era.

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1) Clark Hunt - hired Andy
2) Andy Reid
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Old 10-17-2022, 03:11 PM   #1219
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You can go back and read to verify, I was pounding the table for Rashawn Slater and was comfortable giving up more than the Mahomes package to get him.
Cool. Who this year should KC draft at LT?
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Why the hell would they have drafted a LT this year? They were already sunken in on the Brown Jr. Experiment
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Old 10-17-2022, 03:15 PM   #1221
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Cool. Who this year should KC draft at LT?
Too early to say who will be expected to go where in the 2023 draft, but KC shod be willing to part with a 2023 1st, 2024 1st, and perhaps an extra 3rd if necessary to trade up high enough for a left tackle. Then take another WR and DE in the 2nd/3rd and you are well on your way to addressing the most pressing needs.
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Buffalo hasn’t drafted early in the draft either for a few years and still has a good LT and a fearsome DL to show for it.

Also, Christian Darrisaw went with pick #23 last year. He could have easily been had instead of making a panic move for OBJ.
Buffalo has invested multiple early picks on the DL the last few years, and still had to go sign Von Miller just for their pass rush to even have a chance against us.

Again, you're absolutely ****ing clueless.

As for the second part of your post, you have no idea what teams were willing to trade down before pick 23.

Do you think the Colts or the Titans had any desire to give the Chiefs a fair deal to trade up to 21 or 22?

"Could have easily" is such a dumb ****ing thing to say when you have absolutely no clue what was going on in war rooms. I bet you didn't even know those 2 teams were picking before the Vikings. GMing is pretty easy when you constantly operate in hindsight, and get to pretend like it's making trades on Madden.
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Too early to say who will be expected to go where in the 2023 draft, but KC shod be willing to part with a 2023 1st, 2024 1st, and perhaps an extra 3rd if necessary to trade up high enough for a left tackle. Then take another WR and DE in the 2nd/3rd and you are well on your way to addressing the most pressing needs.
Who, specifically, would you be willing to give up TWO firsts and a third to draft?
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I don't know, maybe trade up for an actual talent at LT as has been stated probably a thousand times at this point.
Who is the LT you'd trade up for this coming year?
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Who, specifically, would you be willing to give up TWO firsts and a third to draft?
He'll tell you long after the draft when he can look back and say "hey, this guy is good, could've easily traded up to get him!".

Guaranteed he wasn't banging the table for the Chiefs to give up a lot to go get Darrisaw leading up to the 2021 draft.
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Too early to say who will be expected to go where in the 2023 draft, but KC shod be willing to part with a 2023 1st, 2024 1st, and perhaps an extra 3rd if necessary to trade up high enough for a left tackle. Then take another WR and DE in the 2nd/3rd and you are well on your way to addressing the most pressing needs.
You give up a QB haul to move up you better be drafting Roaf. You already have issues with who KC has drafted in the 2nd regarding WRs and you want them to get one there? Also if DE is such a huge need why are you waiting until round 3? I don’t think your strategy is well thought out and it screams desperation. Sewell was a can’t miss prospect at LT and from what I see he is struggling. No one is guaranteed but they better be for what you want to give up for him.
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Who is the LT you'd trade up for this coming year?
I don't know. Haven't looked into them all that closely. The guy I really wanted is long, long out of our reach at this point.
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Why the hell would they have drafted a LT this year? They were already sunken in on the Brown Jr. Experiment
Except they weren’t.
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You give up a QB haul to move up you better be drafting Roaf. You already have issues with who KC has drafted in the 2nd regarding WRs and you want them to get one there? Also if DE is such a huge need why are you waiting until round 3? I don’t think your strategy is well thought out and it screams desperation. Sewell was a can’t miss prospect at LT and from what I see he is struggling. No one is guaranteed but they better be for what you want to give up for him.
He doesn't care. He gets to live in fantasy future land where GMing is as easy as having a time machine.
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