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Old 10-19-2022, 09:31 AM  
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Bills defensive plan vs the Chiefs



Not sure if anyone has the athletic or not but here's a cool article breaking down the Bills game plan.

Basically, they had Miller now and didn't last year and he allows this defensive gameplan to work
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:09 AM   #46
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I don't want to hear any crap about their gameplan. KC was a penalty and a missed kick away from 30 pts.
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:10 AM   #47
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:18 AM   #48
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:18 AM   #49
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They had a WR fall down in the endzone on fourth and goal and they had another fumble in the redzone.

So...yeah.
The WR was never going to catch that ball in the EZ, it was way behind him and he only fell down because he was trying to stop on a dime. The RZ fumble drive would have more likely ended in 6, though.
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:27 AM   #50
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They had a WR fall down in the endzone on fourth and goal and they had another fumble in the redzone.

So...yeah.
We were talking about if we did score and they didn't.

I'm trying to keep my rose colored glasses on, damn it.

Can I be a TruLi'lChieffyFan for one day?

I want the Chiefs to be the best and in my heart I don't think the Bills are the clear cut superior team every one is purporting them to be.

Yes, our line isn't great...but our coaches are kind of asking them to be a round peg in a square hole.

Shorten up those drops/routes, take more snaps from under center (which would require more pre-snap reads, which would not be bad if they don't overload the QB), an actual commitment to running the ball would help (ha!)...and I know if I see it, then Reid will see it and consider it. He's too smart and his roots are WCO w/Holmgren, so that's a direct lineage to Walsh, so I really think that they'll right the ship and actually get better as the season progresses.

Too much talent for that to not be the inevitability.
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:30 AM   #51
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The problem is we had these exact same discussions last year when the offense was struggling a bit. That's why teams play this way. It's why Belichick has done it for years. Most teams honestly just aren't good enough to avoid shooting themselves in the foot a few times a game. So you always feel like if you'd just made a couple extra plays you'd win, but you never do because it's just hard for any offense to pull off 12-15 play drives over and over. Guys drop passes or a RB misses the hole or the QB misses an open guy or there's a penalty and the drive gets stalled.
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:30 AM   #52
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People keep talking like we got blown out.

We hurt ourselves a lot, not as bad as the Colts game but a lot of self inflicted wounds. They made LESS mistakes.
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:32 AM   #53
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Imagine coming out of that game and thinking "the Chiefs can't win a SB".

Only a ****ing reerun can come to that conclusion.

It was actually the complete opposite. Even with the OT play and lack of a pass rush, if Pat plays like Pat and Andy doesn't get conservative with playcalling, we absolutely win that game.

The Chiefs proved they can go to to toe with the "best team in the NFL" despite having multiple key guys out.

I'm going to have to take a break from this place, because the reeruned takes are just exhausting at this point.
Bills are the supposed "best team in the league now" and the game wasn't sealed until there was less than a minute to go.

The Chiefs lost by FOUR ****ING POINTS and everyone is acting like they got shellacked, it's over and may as well give up and retool for next year, just hand the Lombardi to the Bills now?




**** that shit. We're basically one-fourth into the season.

Lotta football still left.
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Old 10-19-2022, 11:33 AM   #54
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Where's the article about the Chiefs' defensive plan versus the Bills? They were missing multiple starters, yet allowed the Bills only 4 more points than the vaunted Buffalo defense allowed.
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The problem is we had these exact same discussions last year when the offense was struggling a bit. That's why teams play this way. It's why Belichick has done it for years. Most teams honestly just aren't good enough to avoid shooting themselves in the foot a few times a game. So you always feel like if you'd just made a couple extra plays you'd win, but you never do because it's just hard for any offense to pull off 12-15 play drives over and over. Guys drop passes or a RB misses the hole or the QB misses an open guy or there's a penalty and the drive gets stalled.
That's why there needs to be an emphasis on all the things I've been posting about.
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You think so?

The Chiefs lost by 4, and left 6 points on the field.

My public school math tells me that would've put the Chiefs ahead by 2...
It doesn't work that way.

A change in those plays causes a ripple effect that changes the entire game.
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It doesn't work that way.

A change in those plays causes a ripple effect that changes the entire game.
Butterfly effect? In a football game?
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It doesn't work that way.

A change in those plays causes a ripple effect that changes the entire game.
Great Scott!
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The problem is we had these exact same discussions last year when the offense was struggling a bit. That's why teams play this way. It's why Belichick has done it for years. Most teams honestly just aren't good enough to avoid shooting themselves in the foot a few times a game. So you always feel like if you'd just made a couple extra plays you'd win, but you never do because it's just hard for any offense to pull off 12-15 play drives over and over. Guys drop passes or a RB misses the hole or the QB misses an open guy or there's a penalty and the drive gets stalled.
Yeah, the consistent efficiency of '18-20 was pretty damn remarkable.... get to 3rd and short, convert 3rd down, and sometimes connect for 50 yards plus. And it's such a fine line, as you said... on any given drive, it's one holding call or one dropped pass or one dumb playcall up the gut on 2nd and 9 to make it 3rd and long.

And people last year acted like the offense hadn't been good at those long drives before, but they were actually really good... they just weren't having to do it each and every possession.
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If MVS more aggressively fights for that 50/50 pass in the end zone on the first drive it is likely simultaneous possession and a TD.

If Andy Reid stopped wasting early downs on MEHHHH minimal gain run plays the Chiefs would have avoided facing so many 3rd and long situations.

And of course if the Chiefs would have pivoted to the short/quick passing game to negate Buffalo’s pass rush, it would have minimized Von Miller’s opportunity to exploit Wylie.

The Chiefs were their own worst enemy on offense more than any supposed great Buffalo defensive gameplan.
I don't think Andy wanted to put the short passing/screen game on tape for them. He's probably saving those in case we meet again.
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