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Old 06-15-2004, 09:32 PM   #1
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:37 PM   #2
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It is pretty amazing though. I thought the Pistons had a fighting chance because they were more physical than the Nets and Sixers teams before them in the Finals, but I never expected it to be quite this one sided. It is kind of hard to believe guys like Malone and Payton can just "lose it" so quickly... you knew they were past their primes coming in but still they had seemingly something left in them...
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:04 PM   #3
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It is pretty amazing though. I thought the Pistons had a fighting chance because they were more physical than the Nets and Sixers teams before them in the Finals, but I never expected it to be quite this one sided. It is kind of hard to believe guys like Malone and Payton can just "lose it" so quickly... you knew they were past their primes coming in but still they had seemingly something left in them...
In fairness to Malone he was playing on a severly hurt knee and played well when uninjured.

Payton was through though.
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:06 PM   #4
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In fairness to Malone he was playing on a severly hurt knee and played well when uninjured.

Payton was through though.
I believe Logical mispelled...... A 1st..........
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:07 PM   #5
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I believe Logical mispelled...... A 1st..........
He musta fixed it before you quoted him..

oops..never mind I found it..I am severely bad at spellchecking..
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:53 PM   #6
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:11 PM   #7
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:22 PM   #8
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There isn't any other way to put it...the Pistons are/were better. The Pistons were a team, they have more talent, and most importantly play better defense.

And I hope all the Kobe/MJ comparisons stop now. Like I've said many times, Kobe isn't even in MJ's zip code, let alone country. Kobe won't ever be the player MJ was because of his selfishness, lack of leadership skills, and inconsistent play both offensively and defensively. Dude just isn't as good as a lot of people say. Anyone who takes Kobe's side should is ignorant. It's not legitament. You won't win.

And I hope we all got a chance to see the Lakers win those titles these last couple of years, because it won't be happening again for awhile. This team is done together. Kobe won't be back, he'll either be in jail or playing for another team. Payton will leave. Phil Jackson is tired of these malcontents that won't listen to him, is it that hard to give Shaq the ball, Kobe? You're not as good as Shaq! Malone won't be back because no one else is coming back. Shaq is staying but that's about it. They're done.
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Old 06-15-2004, 11:03 PM   #9
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There isn't any other way to put it...the Pistons are/were better. The Pistons were a team, they have more talent, and most importantly play better defense.

And I hope all the Kobe/MJ comparisons stop now. Like I've said many times, Kobe isn't even in MJ's zip code, let alone country. Kobe won't ever be the player MJ was because of his selfishness, lack of leadership skills, and inconsistent play both offensively and defensively. Dude just isn't as good as a lot of people say. Anyone who takes Kobe's side should is ignorant. It's not legitament. You won't win.

And I hope we all got a chance to see the Lakers win those titles these last couple of years, because it won't be happening again for awhile. This team is done together. Kobe won't be back, he'll either be in jail or playing for another team. Payton will leave. Phil Jackson is tired of these malcontents that won't listen to him, is it that hard to give Shaq the ball, Kobe? You're not as good as Shaq! Malone won't be back because no one else is coming back. Shaq is staying but that's about it. They're done.
Cody,

Kobe is only 25 won't be 26 until August. Michael did not win his first NBA championship until he was 28 in 1992 (born 63). Kobe already has 3 at age 25 and 4 finals appearences. That selfishness will likely disappear with age and maturity something he does not have as of yet. You sell Kobe short when you forget how young he is and what he has already accomplished.
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Old 06-15-2004, 11:13 PM   #10
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Cody,

Kobe is only 25 won't be 26 until August. Michael did not win his first NBA championship until he was 28 in 1992 (born 63). Kobe already has 3 at age 25 and 4 finals appearences. That selfishness will likely disappear with age and maturity something he does not have as of yet. You sell Kobe short when you forget how young he is and what he has already accomplished.
Without Shaq, no ring. He helped, yes, but the role players stepped up a lot. Kobe choked on the bone this series. The Finals. Jordan didn't ever do that. Jordan didn't ever get stopped. Jordan didn't ever get held to 1 point in a half of a finals game or ever. But I don't hold that against Kobe too much, he is too hyped up, he can't and won't ever live up to what Jordan has accomplished...dude's the best ever.

As far as Championships go, he won't be getting anymore. He's leaving LA. He wants to be "the man." He may or may not improve as a player, but it won't be to Jordan's level.
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Old 06-15-2004, 11:16 PM   #11
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Without Shaq, no ring. He helped, yes, but the role players stepped up a lot. Kobe choked on the bone this series. The Finals. Jordan didn't ever do that. Jordan didn't ever get stopped. Jordan didn't ever get held to 1 point in a half of a finals game or ever. But I don't hold that against Kobe too much, he is too hyped up, he can't and won't ever live up to what Jordan has accomplished...dude's the best ever.

As far as Championships go, he won't be getting anymore. He's leaving LA. He wants to be "the man." He may or may not improve as a player, but it won't be to Jordan's level.
At Cody's idol worship. Corey Dillon is the NFL superstar that got the Chiefs offense going too.
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Old 06-15-2004, 11:20 PM   #12
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By the way, Kobe had Shaq and they still lost? Jordan didn't have Shaq. hehe
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Old 06-15-2004, 11:29 PM   #13
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By the way, Kobe had Shaq and they still lost? Jordan didn't have Shaq. hehe
Jordan used the same method - 3 large centers strictly designed to foul and score underneath.
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Old 06-15-2004, 11:58 PM   #14
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Jordan is my favourite player of all time and I DO think Kobe is approaching his level. Yes Kobe has Shaq, however, Jordan had one of espn's 50 greatest players ever, Scottie Pippen, in his prime, along with Horace Grant and a much deeper bench than the current Lakers. Kobe is not the player Jordan was yet, but I wouldn't be suprised if he gets there soon. His offense cannot be questioned AND he is a superb defender.
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Jordan is my favourite player of all time and I DO think Kobe is approaching his level. Yes Kobe has Shaq, however, Jordan had one of espn's 50 greatest players ever, Scottie Pippen, in his prime, along with Horace Grant and a much deeper bench than the current Lakers. Kobe is not the player Jordan was yet, but I wouldn't be suprised if he gets there soon. His offense cannot be questioned AND he is a superb defender.
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