Some Quick Things

[Chris Meck]

Tough, hard fought football game against a physical Titans team that always gives Andy and Mahomes fits.

1. I don't think Titans win with a hobbled Tannehill, either. Willis' outside mobility was their second best weapon. Tannehill would've completed some passes, but also would've been a sitting duck and the Chiefs' pass rush was improved.

2. Chiefs defense was outstanding. Derrick Henry is a MAN out there, and other than the one big run, they bottled him up pretty well. Those of you calling for Spags head are NUTS. Spags has been a magician this year, playing all these rookies, and still dials up the perfect play in the crucial moment.

3. Saunders needs MOAR SNAPS. He's clearly better than Nnadi. In fact, he certainly appears to be our best DT not named Jones.

4.Wylie blows goats. He's absolutely terrible, and overmatched on an NFL field.

5. Trey Smith...I don't know what's going on, but he's not been playing all that well either.

6. OBJ is not good enough. At his best, he's average. Demanding top of the market pay when you're not very good is a bad look.

7. 68 passes? Yeesh. Our inability to run the ball has got to be fixed. You can't do that every game. You just can't. I know Wylie can't run block either, but I don't understand why the other four just cannot open holes when that's supposed to be each of their strong suit.

8. The Titans are what they always are; they're a problem. They're tough, they're physical, they're well coached. You can hate Vrabel if you want, but he always has his guys ready to play hard for him. That was a VERY disciplined defense. I didn't see anything all that fancy happening coverage-wise. They just executed. They're going to be back in the play-offs again.

9. Butker. What's up with that? Dooooooood.

10. We should recognize the Titans; they're the 90's Chiefs. They played hard, they played physical, they were disciplined in coverage, they throttled the superior quarterback for 75% of the game...and then the HOF'er dialed it up and beat them. Elway used to do that shit to us all the time. Now we have the boogeyman. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

[oldman]

Good analysis, Chris, especially on points 4 and 6. Even though Pencilneck was praising his talents in the 4th last night, you can't mask the number of hits and pressures coming over his spot. And don't get me started about Brown.

I still don't think Buttkicker is 100%. I don't fault him for missing a 47 yarder, but we don't need XP drama.

One thing was obvious and that's the importance of Juju. You can't double everyone.

[RunKC]

*whispers*

Mahomes holds the ball forever and a coverage sack that isn’t OBJ’s fault is marked as OBJ’s fault

[chiefzilla1501]

We've got to figure out how to win games where defenses knock our guys around. Especially kelce. These are the games you can see Kelce look flat out spent at the end of games. First, the refs need to do their jobs and call it. But what else do we do? We historically have done very poorly recently against these chippy defenses

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by RunKC

*whispers*

Mahomes holds the ball forever and a coverage sack that isn’t OBJ’s fault is marked as OBJ’s fault

I'm aware. That's not really what I'm talking about. Plenty of snaps he just gets blown by. Wylie's even worse. That's what I'm talking about.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We've got to figure out how to win games where defenses knock our guys around. Especially kelce. These are the games you can see Kelce look flat out spent at the end of games. First, the refs need to do their jobs and call it. But what else do we do? We historically have done very poorly recently against these chippy defenses

Well, we did win.

But that doesn't change the fact that we have some problems that need addressing.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Re-read your post.

They rush 4 and drop everybody else, so if they're disciplined, nobody's open. It's a numbers game.

He missed some throws? Yeah, when multiple rushers just blow by the offensive line, I imagine so.

Freaking out in the pocket? Too many times, there was no pocket. A few times there were, and nobody was open.

It's the line. We can't run the ball at all, which puts EXTRA pressure on both the line themselves as the rushers don't have to honor their run fits and can just pin their ears back and go upfield AND Mahomes.

Pressure with 4 and dropping makes it tough. But they have guys open, he's gotta stay in there and hit them.

They've gotta be able to run the ball some for sure. I don't know what the fix is for that (I think it's getting a RB worth a shit).

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by O.city

Pressure with 4 and dropping makes it tough. But they have guys open, he's gotta stay in there and hit them.

They've gotta be able to run the ball some for sure. I don't know what the fix is for that (I think it's getting a RB worth a shit).

You should be able to run the ball against a light box, period. There should be holes. Too often, there is not.

Wylie blows goats. We could start there.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Oh. And **** Clete Blakeman

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I'm shocked Vegas doesn't adjust their spread for him doing games against Mahomes.

Pat has a winning record in every situation BUT a Blakeman led crew. Unreal.

[O.city]

I hate to say it because, well, ****, but they've gotta be able to run the ball in these situations. Atleast a little bit.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Pressure with 4 and dropping makes it tough. But they have guys open, he's gotta stay in there and hit them.

They've gotta be able to run the ball some for sure. I don't know what the fix is for that (I think it's getting a RB worth a shit).

Patrick has been great taking what the defense gives him but he still wants to go deep too often when he shouldn’t.

Multiple times they only rushed 4 and pushed everyone back like the Bengals did last year and the RB was open in the flat.

Just take that and get 5 yards every time until they are forced to move a LB to the out side opening up the middle of the field

[displacedinMN]

Tenn has Henry and their defense.


And an attitude of taunting

[dirk digler]

We need to overhaul our RB room in the offseason including getting a RB coach who was an actual RB not a WR. Hopefully Niang can play in the next week or so.

[O.city]

Yeah, the quick game was working, they got away from it, then went back to it and it was still working.

[JPH83]

Good post, I think I agree with pretty much all of it. As for the offensive "struggles" and particularly the run, i mean, I try and keep it in perspective! This is a team that is beating up on all but the very best Ds and it's faced some very tough ones. But the challenges aren't new, we all saw them from the beginning of the year.

It's a mixture. The OTs have played badly, Trey has been banged up and taken a step back. We have a scheme that doesn't seem to maximise our RB's strengths, or at least mask their weaknesses - and our OL doesn't seem to execute these plays that well. Against good secondaries playing man we miss an elite WR who can separate - and Mahomes has maybe held on for a tick too long on occasion, but it's connected. It all adds up. BUT - point 8 is right, this was a very, very good D. As good as this offence can be we're not going to put 40 on these teams every time. We're not going to put 40 on SF every time.

One of the things I really liked seeing was Juju working the intermediate stuff well. The fact that Toney was involved is promising and I STILL think Moore will be a valuable piece. The cavalry isn't coming or the OTs and run game, same with the DL. If we win it all it'll be partly in spite of these things and partly just better execution and cohesion.

[O.city]

I don't think you're gonna get much from Moore this season. I don't know what the deal is there, but he just doesn't seem ready for this level yet.