Some Quick Things

[Chris Meck]

Tough, hard fought football game against a physical Titans team that always gives Andy and Mahomes fits.

1. I don't think Titans win with a hobbled Tannehill, either. Willis' outside mobility was their second best weapon. Tannehill would've completed some passes, but also would've been a sitting duck and the Chiefs' pass rush was improved.

2. Chiefs defense was outstanding. Derrick Henry is a MAN out there, and other than the one big run, they bottled him up pretty well. Those of you calling for Spags head are NUTS. Spags has been a magician this year, playing all these rookies, and still dials up the perfect play in the crucial moment.

3. Saunders needs MOAR SNAPS. He's clearly better than Nnadi. In fact, he certainly appears to be our best DT not named Jones.

4.Wylie blows goats. He's absolutely terrible, and overmatched on an NFL field.

5. Trey Smith...I don't know what's going on, but he's not been playing all that well either.

6. OBJ is not good enough. At his best, he's average. Demanding top of the market pay when you're not very good is a bad look.

7. 68 passes? Yeesh. Our inability to run the ball has got to be fixed. You can't do that every game. You just can't. I know Wylie can't run block either, but I don't understand why the other four just cannot open holes when that's supposed to be each of their strong suit.

8. The Titans are what they always are; they're a problem. They're tough, they're physical, they're well coached. You can hate Vrabel if you want, but he always has his guys ready to play hard for him. That was a VERY disciplined defense. I didn't see anything all that fancy happening coverage-wise. They just executed. They're going to be back in the play-offs again.

9. Butker. What's up with that? Dooooooood.

10. We should recognize the Titans; they're the 90's Chiefs. They played hard, they played physical, they were disciplined in coverage, they throttled the superior quarterback for 75% of the game...and then the HOF'er dialed it up and beat them. Elway used to do that shit to us all the time. Now we have the boogeyman. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Y'know who was maybe the best defender on the field last night?

David Long Jr. He looked like peak Jayon Brown for the Titans. I mean they were using him all over the place and he was making plays everywhere.

For us, Jones and Bolton were both outstanding. Sneed also quietly had an outstanding game (he smothered a lot of those boots by not biting and staying on the underneath/out routes). But it seemed like every time I looked I saw #51 in the middle of the shit. He played a great ballgame.

Long was everywhere. Couple times we had a run blocked up and he just outquicked out G to make the tackle. That's a damn nice use of a 6th round pick, he's really developed into a nice player.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Long was everywhere. Couple times we had a run blocked up and he just outquicked out G to make the tackle. That's a damn nice use of a 6th round pick, he's really developed into a nice player.

I remember one in particular where he just made Trey Smith his bitch. Smith's going for the punch and Long makes a perfect pass-rusher move to swipe his hands off at the same time he breaks off his outside shoulder. He ended up in the hole like a bullet.

It was textbook.

Yeah, they've done an excellent job developing him. He was solid as a replacement for Brown a couple years back but he is a genuine difference maker out there now.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, well...

Said it a dozen times to this point but the 90s Chiefs aren't even possible these days.

The defense just put forward as good a game as you can expect in the modern NFL. The Titans got the game script they wanted and had every opportunity to use Henry to salt that game away.

The D stood tall and wouldn't allow it.

From what I can see, Henry had 8 carries for 23 yards in the 2nd half and overtime.

"But he wears defenses down!!!"

They simply took him out of the game. You can't keep giving him the ball when he's averaging 3 YPC. You end up behind the sticks almost immediately.

The Chiefs defense was outstanding.

[DTHOF]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Oh. And **** Clete Blakeman



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Did anyone see Payton call out Clete and roll his eyes on the Monday night football Manning cast last week? Pretty funny.

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[Rainbarrel]

Kelce, JuJu and Noah's concentration on catching the ball on the last drive. Were awesomeness xxx. CEH had nice one earlier

[DJ's left nut]

I'm doing my standard re-watch thing and really, the broadcast is telling me some of the same things I saw at the stadium.

Brown was fine. Hell, I think Brown was actually pretty good. He got beat by Mario Edwards pretty badly on that overthrow to Kelce and had a hand in one of those sacks, but by and large, he played a strong game. I think Thuney was our best OL (unsurprisingly) but I think OBJ was right there behind him.

Wylie was bad but fellas - Trey Smith was worse.

The combined effect of those two guys has hurt us badly all year. Folks keep wanting to get Wylie out of there and yeah, I get it. But man, Trey Smith is doing nobody any favors and when the right side of the line is just collapsing on any given play, it makes things awfully tough.

I think it's probably time to give Smith a break. If he's healthy, then he's mentally ****ed up and could use a re-set. If he's hurt even coming off a bye week, then he needs some time to rest and get healthy. Allegretti is a competent blocker and right now I have little doubt that he'd be better than Smith is playing.

Wylie, again, isn't an 'on an island' guy - he absolutely has to have credible help to his left. He's not getting it even a little bit and the combined weight of those two guys struggling is snowballing rather than being greater than the sum of their parts.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And man, Noah Gray looked as close to Kelce-ish as we've seen from anyone on this roster in a long time. Obviously the deep seem rout will be remembered but he made a catch on the sideline where he caught it with his hands and pulled it down/pivoted the other direction all in one move that looked JUST like something Kelce would've done. I can't recall if he ended up converting a 1st down with it, but if he didn't it was awfully close.

He and Watson had great nights as complementary weapons. It's just the kind of contributions you need on nights where the offense just isn't quite in sync.

I agree. Which I guess begs the question of if we needed Jody fortson last night. On the one hand I'm glad gray got a chance to shine as a receiver. Still, Reid loves those three TE sets and I wonder if they could have helped last night particularly in a game where they were pushing us around.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm doing my standard re-watch thing and really, the broadcast is telling me some of the same things I saw at the stadium.

Brown was fine. Hell, I think Brown was actually pretty good. He got beat by Mario Edwards pretty badly on that overthrow to Kelce and had a hand in one of those sacks, but by and large, he played a strong game. I think Thuney was our best OL (unsurprisingly) but I think OBJ was right there behind him.

Wylie was bad but fellas - Trey Smith was worse.

The combined effect of those two guys has hurt us badly all year. Folks keep wanting to get Wylie out of there and yeah, I get it. But man, Trey Smith is doing nobody any favors and when the right side of the line is just collapsing on any given play, it makes things awfully tough.

I think it's probably time to give Smith a break. If he's healthy, then he's mentally ****ed up and could use a re-set. If he's hurt even coming off a bye week, then he needs some time to rest and get healthy. Allegretti is a competent blocker and right now I have little doubt that he'd be better than Smith is playing.

Wylie, again, isn't an 'on an island' guy - he absolutely has to have credible help to his left. He's not getting it even a little bit and the combined weight of those two guys struggling is snowballing rather than being greater than the sum of their parts.

I was willing to give Smith the benefit of the doubt early in the season that he was maybe playing hurt. I am starting to wonder if maybe last season was an outlier. Hopefully whatever is wrong gets fixed.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I agree. Which I guess begs the question of if we needed Jody fortson last night. On the one hand I'm glad gray got a chance to shine as a receiver. Still, Reid loves those three TE sets and I wonder if they could have helped last night particularly in a game where they were pushing us around.

Was Fortson dinged up or just a gameday inactive?

Because the latter is a mistake, IMO. Especially when it was just so you could have the privilege of having TWO "Dave Toub Memorial Special Team Scrubs' on the roster. 3 if you count Cochrane.

I mean lord, do you REALLY need Kemp? FFS, stop acting like Gunner is as hard to play as ****ing QB is. Or as critical.

If you are hell bent on keeping Lammons on this team, you can't also be sitting guys like Fortson so you can play Kemp. It's getting unreasonable, IMO.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm doing my standard re-watch thing and really, the broadcast is telling me some of the same things I saw at the stadium.

Brown was fine. Hell, I think Brown was actually pretty good. He got beat by Mario Edwards pretty badly on that overthrow to Kelce and had a hand in one of those sacks, but by and large, he played a strong game. I think Thuney was our best OL (unsurprisingly) but I think OBJ was right there behind him.

Wylie was bad but fellas - Trey Smith was worse.

The combined effect of those two guys has hurt us badly all year. Folks keep wanting to get Wylie out of there and yeah, I get it. But man, Trey Smith is doing nobody any favors and when the right side of the line is just collapsing on any given play, it makes things awfully tough.

I think it's probably time to give Smith a break. If he's healthy, then he's mentally ****ed up and could use a re-set. If he's hurt even coming off a bye week, then he needs some time to rest and get healthy. Allegretti is a competent blocker and right now I have little doubt that he'd be better than Smith is playing.

Wylie, again, isn't an 'on an island' guy - he absolutely has to have credible help to his left. He's not getting it even a little bit and the combined weight of those two guys struggling is snowballing rather than being greater than the sum of their parts.

That's probably why Wylie looked better last season. Smith was playing much better last season. Now they both stink and teams are learning how to use them against each other.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Was Fortson dinged up or just a gameday inactive?

Because the latter is a mistake, IMO. Especially when it was just so you could have the privilege of having TWO "Dave Toub Memorial Special Team Scrubs' on the roster. 3 if you count Cochrane.

I mean lord, do you REALLY need Kemp? FFS, stop acting like Gunner is as hard to play as ****ing QB is. Or as critical.

If you are hell bent on keeping Lammons on this team, you can't also be sitting guys like Fortson so you can play Kemp. It's getting unreasonable, IMO.

Fortson was Inactive because he was hurt all week

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Was Fortson dinged up or just a gameday inactive?

Because the latter is a mistake, IMO. Especially when it was just so you could have the privilege of having TWO "Dave Toub Memorial Special Team Scrubs' on the roster. 3 if you count Cochrane.

I mean lord, do you REALLY need Kemp? FFS, stop acting like Gunner is as hard to play as ****ing QB is. Or as critical.

If you are hell bent on keeping Lammons on this team, you can't also be sitting guys like Fortson so you can play Kemp. It's getting unreasonable, IMO.

Fortson got hurt during practice earlier in the week.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Fortson was Inactive because he was hurt all week

That's what I thought.

'Zilla's comment made me wonder if I wasn't mistaken and that his inactive status was more of a 'voluntary' thing.

Obliged.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

That's probably why Wylie looked better last season. Smith was playing much better last season. Now they both stink and teams are learning how to use them against each other.

That's absolutely the case.

The two of them last year formed a solid pair on the right side. And they were very complementary.

Now they're the inverse of it.

It isn't just a Wylie thing. It isn't just a Smith thing. But both of them are making matters worse instead of better.

[dirk digler]

Shit happens but this feels like it should have been a win for Trey

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