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Old 11-02-2022, 09:18 PM  
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Kadarius Toney vows to ‘do it my hardest’ to elevate Chiefs’ offense after trade

Kadarius Toney vows to ‘do it my hardest’ to elevate Chiefs’ offense after trade



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Old 11-08-2022, 01:44 PM   #181
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Seems as good a place as any to put this. All that nonsense about not trading their 1st round pick was a joke as many suspected.
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:46 PM   #182
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Side note. That little out 'n in route that Toney ran on his second catch is the same route JJSS ran on that 4th & 1.
We're gonna see him run that route on a key 3rd or 4th down at some point.

He's not Hill, but on THAT route, he's going to be just as impossible to cover as Tyreek was.

It's easy money but it's not a play we're going to use until we have to. If we find ourselves in another 2-point conversion situation in 3-4 weeks, that plays gonna be high up on Andy's list.

I just doubt they've gotten him involved in those packages just yet. It'll come.

This kid's gonna be a hell of a weapon for us. There's a non-zero chance that he ends up eating all the way into MVS snaps at the Z by the end of the year.
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:46 PM   #183
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Derp.
Someone will be along soon to tell us Clark is lying because they didn't trade for Brian Burns.
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:52 PM   #184
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I am very hopeful for his continuing to build on last nights performance. I just don't think that you find that type of quick feet and ability to separate very often. I'm also hopeful that Moore finds a way to get it right, but I don't see the same type of potential in him that some others do. I remember reading here that he will be the number 1 target by season's end. That's going to take a massive shift in his targets.
That's because it ain't there.

Watch Toney's explosion and you'll see what people were advertising Moore as. And like you, I never bought it. He's a fine athlete for a WR but fine is all.

Toney's a next level guy with a genuinely elite toolbox.

THIS is the kind of guy you see and get excited about the potential for. Moore is a pure floor play. He doesn't have any stand-out flaws nor does he have any stand-out tools. He's...fine. Long term, that's what he'll be - fine.

Toney is just all variance - he's gonna be damn good or he's gonna be out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.

If I'm betting on which guy gets a 2nd deal, I'd say Moore is the safer bet. But if I'm betting on which guy becomes a top 10 WR earner, I'm taking Toney.
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Old 11-08-2022, 03:31 PM   #185
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Thank you Mega - that is disgusting
He made that cut while being held, too. It wasn't called (and I'm not sure it should have been) but you clearly see the defender alter his route and Toney jukes him anyway.
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I think it's pretty obvious that this team thinks very highly of Toney. They wanted to make sure he got at least a couple of targets in this first game. I'm betting they take the Josh Gordon approach with him and give him around 10 snaps for a few games and then he's going to be getting 40%+ in about a month.

The big difference between Toney and Gordon though is that Toney isn't a washed up nearly 31 year old that's only played in 32 games over the previous 7 years. Toney has the chance to be a big producer in this offense and I think he will start taking snaps from Moore, Watson, and maybe even MVS. They pretty much have to find out if Toney or Moore can be relied upon next year and I'm willing to bet that Toneys gonna get that chance to step up.
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I wonder if Toney has the removable kind of grill, or the unremovable.
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I wonder if Toney has the removable kind of grill, or the unremovable.
Pretty sure it's removable.

And after watching his early interviews before his grill, i totally get why he wears it. I think part of it is that he's self conscious about his teeth.
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Stats be damned.

Hardman had the only receiving TD, and he's been making tough catches in big moments in crowds all season. Can't deny any of that, or that we lose this game without his contributions. He's been as integral a part of the offense as anyone this season, making drive-saving catches or runs that have led to scores and ultimately Ws.

Prove me wrong, buddy.
I'm on the give Hardman more snaps/opportunities bandwagon. I'd love to sign him to a 4 year $40 mil deal. Hell I'd go up to $13 mil/yr for him. If we can see what we have with Toney and if he steps up, then you can let JJSS walk. Having 3 sub 4.4 guys would take this team to the next level and Moore isn't slow by any means.

Another thing is Mecole's production has been impacted by his week 2 heel injury. He only had 2 catches for 6 yards combined in week 3 and 4. Outside of those 2 weeks he's averaged just under 50 yds a game. That'd be good for 800-850 yds this year. That'd put him ahead of MVS and MVS has had 116 more snaps.
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The interwebs seem to think that kind is a lot less common.
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That's because it ain't there.

Watch Toney's explosion and you'll see what people were advertising Moore as. And like you, I never bought it. He's a fine athlete for a WR but fine is all.

Toney's a next level guy with a genuinely elite toolbox.

THIS is the kind of guy you see and get excited about the potential for. Moore is a pure floor play. He doesn't have any stand-out flaws nor does he have any stand-out tools. He's...fine. Long term, that's what he'll be - fine.

Toney is just all variance - he's gonna be damn good or he's gonna be out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.

If I'm betting on which guy gets a 2nd deal, I'd say Moore is the safer bet. But if I'm betting on which guy becomes a top 10 WR earner, I'm taking Toney.
Yep. I'm really excited to see what he can be once he gets the playbook down and gets some chemistry with Pat.
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Yep. I'm really excited to see what he can be once he gets the playbook down and gets some chemistry with Pat.
Me too.
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He made that cut while being held, too. It wasn't called (and I'm not sure it should have been) but you clearly see the defender alter his route and Toney jukes him anyway.
Kid is pretty darn strong. You look at how he just yanks away from that guy, how he puts that DE on his ass in the other play, and it's pretty apparent the kid has a lot of power for a player his size. Which also is a huge advantage when teams are playing man press as physically as some of these teams play. Biggest reason most of our receivers have had trouble getting open early. Kad is the answer to that shit.
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