Is CEH on his way out of KC?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by -King-

Pass pro...sure. I get that. But he only averages 1 less reception per game in his career than CEH. If he can be better than CEH at running the ball, then he's the better running back for us, period. Especially when McKinnon is coming in on every 3rd down anyways.

Have you seen Jones run routes? It's pretty elementary. And he doesn't have any improv skills to speak of. Ditto his catching ability.

Look, it comes down to the fact that right none of the guys in the RB room are that great. Jerrick is probably overall the best of the bunch, but even Jerrick isn't that special. if we took Kareem back today, he'd easily be the best RB in the room, and from what I've seen of him this season, that's not that high a bar right now.

But Kareem could regularly make something out of nothing, and right now our OL is not creating a lot of good holes on a consistent basis, so our RBs are not producing consistently.

Pacheco is the only guy that is still mostly potential, so maybe he becomes that guy down the road, like next year. But he's pretty raw still.

Bottom line, the guy we need should basically be at least Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook type of RB. Jack of all trades, great at nothing maybe, but good at everything, physically about 5' 10" 210lbs or around there. Oh look, that's Kareem Hunt. Shocking.

You want real flash, then we're looking for more of a Christian McCaffrey or a Aaron jones type. Alvin Kamara would fit here as well. more explosive with the ball, but still good at all the other things. A prime or near prime Shady McCoy would be the ideal in this offense, because he was good at all of those things, and had elite vision and quickness.

But the running game would be perfectly acceptable with a RB in the Dalvin Cook mold. Good speed, some quicks, good vision, good YAC/RAC, runs good routes and good at pass pro. Oh, and stays pretty healthy.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Have you seen Jones run routes? It's pretty elementary. And he doesn't have any improv skills to speak of. Ditto his catching ability.

Look, it comes down to the fact that right none of the guys in the RB room are that great. Jerrick is probably overall the best of the bunch, but even Jerrick isn't that special. if we took Kareem back today, he'd easily be the best RB in the room, and from what I've seen of him this season, that's not that high a bar right now.

But Kareem could regularly make something out of nothing, and right now our OL is not creating a lot of good holes on a consistent basis, so our RBs are not producing consistently.

Pacheco is the only guy that is still mostly potential, so maybe he becomes that guy down the road, like next year. But he's pretty raw still.

Bottom line, the guy we need should basically be at least Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook type of RB. Jack of all trades, great at nothing maybe, but good at everything, physically about 5' 10" 210lbs or around there. Oh look, that's Kareem Hunt. Shocking.

You want real flash, then we're looking for more of a Christian McCaffrey or a Aaron jones type. Alvin Kamara would fit here as well. more explosive with the ball, but still good at all the other things. A prime or near prime Shady McCoy would be the ideal in this offense, because he was good at all of those things, and had elite vision and quickness.

But the running game would be perfectly acceptable with a RB in the Dalvin Cook mold. Good speed, some quicks, good vision, good YAC/RAC, runs good routes and good at pass pro. Oh, and stays pretty healthy.

Yeah cause CEH runs such a diverse set of routes. Good point.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah cause CEH runs such a diverse set of routes. Good point.

Runs a lot more routes than Jones. Maybe you forgot that route he ran on Sunday bailing Pat out and converting the first down? Just one textbook example of things RoJo can't/won't do.

And CEH is a willing pass pro RB. RoJo?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Runs a lot more routes than Jones. Maybe you forgot that route he ran on Sunday bailing Pat out and converting the first down? Just one textbook example of things RoJo can't/won't do.

And CEH is a willing pass pro RB. RoJo?

What? He ran a simple sideline/wheel route and then came back for the ball. Good catch. But nothing special. There's a reason he only catches one more ball per game than RoJo.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by -King-

What? He ran a simple sideline/wheel route and then came back for the ball. Good catch. But nothing special. There's a reason he only catches one more ball per game than RoJo.

Not sure Rojo can run a wheel route.

Rojo wouldn't have come back. or wouldn't have caught it.

Also, in this offense RBs are expected to be able to run routes from the slot, or any position in the offense, x, y, z, whatever. Rojo can't do any of that. But CEH can and we've seen him run WR-type routes. Rojo can't do that at all.

And who said anything about special? I'm talking about the bare minimum to just be on the field. That's run the ball, be decent in pass pro, run the minimum number of routes from not just the tailback position but also the slot.

Rojo does one of those things. And it's not like he's a great runner anyway. he showed some flashes in TB early, but even then, he wasn't special. if he was, I'd be at least quietly banging the desk for him to get in there, but he's not. Never was. He was probably always backup in case CEH or Jerrick got hurt. No one saw Pacheco coming, which is how Jones ended up where he is.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Rojo wouldn't have come back. or wouldn't have caught it.

Also, in this offense RBs are expected to be able to run routes from the slot, or any position in the offense, x, y, z, whatever. Rojo can't do any of that.

And who said anything about special? I'm talking about the bare minimum to just be on the field. That's run the ball, be decent in pass pro, run the minimum number of routes from not just the tailback position but also the slot.

Rojo does one of those things. And it's not like he's a great runner anyway. he showed some flashes in TB early, but even then, he wasn't special. if he was, I'd be at least quietly banging the desk for him to get in there, but he's not. Never was. He was probably always backup in case CEH or Jerrick got hurt. No one saw Pacheco coming, which is how Jones ended up where he is.

99.99999% of the time CEH starts plays in the backfield. I don't know what you're talking about. And in that 0.00001% play, they can put in another running back.

Really, watch the game again and look at the RB routes. I don't know what you think you're watching cause they literally do the minimum most plays when it comes to running routes.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by -King-

99.99999% of the time CEH starts plays in the backfield. I don't know what you're talking about. And in that 0.00001% play, they can put in another running back.

Really, watch the game again and look at the RB routes. I don't know what you think you're watching cause they literally do the minimum most plays when it comes to running routes.

Lol, you're talking about one game? Okay, you win, if we're just going to talk about one game, then fine, whatever.

I'm talking about known capabilities between two RBs. Not what happened in one game. You want to argue about this single game? Fine, Rojo might've been okay in place of CEH on Sunday.

Who cares?