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Old 11-14-2022, 12:24 PM   #1
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Count me still in on the “why did you play josh allen” yesterday camp. I just don’t get it.
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Old 11-14-2022, 12:48 PM   #2
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Count me still in on the “why did you play josh allen” yesterday camp. I just don’t get it.
I get it. Bills are trying to win the AFC east and get a first round bye. NE and the NYJ are not a serious threat to the Bills to win AFC East but the Miami Dolphins are with how they have been scoring points with Tua.

There are teams like NE and NYJ that I believe have zero shot to make the SB if they make the playoffs but even the worst playoff teams in a 1 game scenario if close to fully healthy and they have a good defense are capable of pulling off an upset in a 1 game scenario.

Ideally, you want to play 1 less playoff game or at least have that first playoff series at home and with that loss yesterday that is in doubt for Buffalo.
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Old 11-14-2022, 12:53 PM   #3
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I get it. Bills are trying to win the AFC east and get a first round bye. NE and the NYJ are not a serious threat to the Bills to win AFC East but the Miami Dolphins are with how they have been scoring points with Tua.

There are teams like NE and NYJ that I believe have zero shot to make the SB if they make the playoffs but even the worst playoff teams in a 1 game scenario if close to fully healthy and they have a good defense are capable of pulling off an upset in a 1 game scenario.

Ideally, you want to play 1 less playoff game or at least have that first playoff series at home and with that loss yesterday that is in doubt for Buffalo.
I still don't get it.

Why are they willing to risk Allen's health for a 1st round bye, or home field advantage?

They arguably have the most talented roster in the NFL; it shouldn't matter where they play.

But they're only that good in January if Allen is healthy. And this game risked that.

Just really, really stupid.
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Old 11-14-2022, 01:00 PM   #4
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I still don't get it.

Why are they willing to risk Allen's health for a 1st round bye, or home field advantage?

They arguably have the most talented roster in the NFL; it shouldn't matter where they play.

But they're only that good in January if Allen is healthy. And this game risked that.

Just really, really stupid.
Yep.
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Old 11-14-2022, 01:06 PM   #5
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I still don't get it.

Why are they willing to risk Allen's health for a 1st round bye, or home field advantage?

They arguably have the most talented roster in the NFL; it shouldn't matter where they play.

But they're only that good in January if Allen is healthy. And this game risked that.

Just really, really stupid.
Because they've never won....they went from #1 to #6, and now they have a dog fight for their division the rest of the year. They legit don't think they can win without being the #1..

They're willing to risk their franchise player to win once. He also hurt his elbow again, watch the tackle on the int return, dude screams in pain and lays on the field.
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Old 11-14-2022, 01:43 PM   #6
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I still don't get it.

Why are they willing to risk Allen's health for a 1st round bye, or home field advantage?

They arguably have the most talented roster in the NFL; it shouldn't matter where they play.

But they're only that good in January if Allen is healthy. And this game risked that.

Just really, really stupid.
He threw the ball 43 times, which tells me the whole UCL thing was way overblown, and all week was just Belichick school of injury reporting to mess with your opponent.
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Old 11-14-2022, 01:52 PM   #7
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He threw the ball 43 times, which tells me the whole UCL thing was way overblown, and all week was just Belichick school of injury reporting to mess with your opponent.
I actually don't buy that, I think they're taking massive chances because they really think this year is their only shot. They went completely all in and know they are going to lose guys after this year. They also don't think they can do it if they have to play 3 games or on the road...
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Old 11-14-2022, 01:53 PM   #8
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I actually don't buy that, I think they're taking massive chances because they really think this year is their only shot. They went completely all in and know they are going to lose guys after this year. They also don't think they can do it if they have to play 3 games or on the road...
I think this is the correct reading.

But, honestly. That seems to bolster the case that you rest Allen.

That roster can only win a Super Bowl if their elite QB plays.
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Old 11-14-2022, 01:57 PM   #9
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I think this is the correct reading.

But, honestly. That seems to bolster the case that you rest Allen.

That roster can only win a Super Bowl if their elite QB plays.
That one loss took them from #1 to #6, now both the Dolphins and Jets can top them and NE is right there...

Now they're in the mud of the AFC with a schedule that is increasing in difficulty. They wanted to play from in front and get a bye, they were basically going to play Allen unless his arm fell off..

I've also watched them much more than I had before and I'm starting to question if even they know he's going to have a limited run as a top notch player. He's extremely reckless, several times yesterday he's lucky he didn't get killed..especially the one where he turned backwards.

Also he makes some passes that when Buffalo has to do what we have done and go with some cheaper receivers...it's not gonna work, he isn't Mahomes out there.
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Old 11-14-2022, 01:52 PM   #10
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I used to be that type of fan during the Alex Smith days. No offense to Smith but we were always just good enough to make the loss hurt extra and darken my mood for the rest of the day.* Winning the SB has mellowed me out quite a bit. Now, it is losses happen no team is perfect.

*Very strange since prior to Super Bowl 54 the only sports team that had major success I follow was the Devils. Still waiting for the Mariners to just make it to the World Series. College team is Wazzu and well coug'd it is a phrase that means snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for a reason.
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Old 11-14-2022, 02:56 PM   #11
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I used to be that type of fan during the Alex Smith days. No offense to Smith but we were always just good enough to make the loss hurt extra and darken my mood for the rest of the day.* Winning the SB has mellowed me out quite a bit. Now, it is losses happen no team is perfect.

*Very strange since prior to Super Bowl 54 the only sports team that had major success I follow was the Devils. Still waiting for the Mariners to just make it to the World Series. College team is Wazzu and well coug'd it is a phrase that means snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for a reason.
that's where I'm at.

The Fumble/TD at Indy....forward progress game........phantom hold on 2pt conversion game........those games nearly did me in as a fan.

Now I get to just bitch about the refs.
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Old 11-14-2022, 03:42 PM   #12
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I still don't get it.

Why are they willing to risk Allen's health for a 1st round bye, or home field advantage?

They arguably have the most talented roster in the NFL; it shouldn't matter where they play.

But they're only that good in January if Allen is healthy. And this game risked that.

Just really, really stupid.
You make a fair point that Buffalo is done in January if Allen isn't playing but that argument I believe really should just be telling him to slide more and bench him for a series or at least play if he doesn't.

But I believe it matters where the playoff games are played and avoiding a playoff game is often crucial. Injuries literally impact every playoff game so just having one less playoff game to avoid new injuries can be huge.

I actually believe KC and not Buffalo is the most talented team in AFC. Why does Buffalo have a better point differential? KC has a bunch of new pieces on defense/offense and are figuring it out.

As for the vaunted Bill's defense? Better defense than KC? Sure but still not a powerhouse defense against a high powered offense.

Josh Allen played arguably the best game of his career against KC in last years playoffs considering the circumstances and *still lost*. Buffalo did very little running the ball when Allen wasn't running.

Tyreek Hill made their entire secondary look foolish. Miami right now has more than just Hill on offense

I have great respect for Von Miller and he will help but he doesn't solve all of these problems.
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Old 11-14-2022, 12:54 PM   #13
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Count me still in on the “why did you play josh allen” yesterday camp. I just don’t get it.
We don't really know though (well, that I know of).. if he was hurting, how badly, risk of making it worse versus just being uncomfortable.
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