Chris Simms: "JuJu's Injury is Patrick Mahomes Fault"

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Around the 0:30 and 3:30 mark. This is quite a wild take from Chris Simms, victim blaming Mahomes for throwing to the open receiver.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I dont think thats true.

Simms continues off his initial point by saying "you couldn't throw that ball 20 years ago because defenders would light that player up" and implying that "QBs nowadays get away with making 'bad throws' that lead recievers defenseless and then look for the flag".

He's implying that QBs like Mahomes can get away with hospital balls and look for the flag, when Mahomes usually does none of these things. Most of his throws are to recievers who aren't going to take massive contact after the catch. The only examples I can think of are the MVS throw in that same game and the Tyreek throw in the AFC Divisional against the Texans where he got lit up. Very few cases.

He really drug Mahomes through the mud in this segment, for seemingly no good reason.

Damn. So now Simms also needs to get rhino rape AIDS.

Be careful out there, folks. There seems to be a lot of that going around these days

[FAX]

Perhaps the receivers could consider getting some damn separation?

FAX

[ROYC75]

Ya know, TBFOH, any pass to a WR in today's ** Faster and Harder Hitting NFL** Think about it, is/could be considered leading the WR into harms way! Defenders are smarter, see things quicker than before. The react, break away at a / the split second before a pass and with faster closing speeds, thus leaving all receivers in harms way each time a team passes the ball!

It's difficult to be perfect on every throw.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Ya know, TBFOH, any pass to a WR in today's ** Faster and Harder Hitting NFL** Think about it, is/could be considered leading the WR into harms way! Defenders are smarter, see things quicker than before. The react, break away at a / the split second before a pass and with faster closing speeds, thus leaving all receivers in harms way each time a team passes the ball!

It's difficult to be perfect on every throw.

Also a good point.

20 years ago a guy like Steve Atwater doesn't get within 5 yards of JJSS at the catch point because he's a lumbering ox of a safety.

DBs these days are bigger, strong and faster than they've ever been. At least relative to their size. You had 'bigger' safeties years ago, but they weren't getting in position to make that hit. As you noted, when those guys were on the field, your windows were much bigger.

Now you've got guys who can deliver 90% of the punch those old school safeties did but at 200% the range.

And it's not like the fields have gotten bigger - the windows have just gotten smaller.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So then my point stands. Look at his arms, he's making no attempt to tackle. He's just flying in there looking to hurt somebody.

Defenders tackle all the time by throwing shoulders and not wrapping up.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by blake5676

Correct take. But then people can't shit their pants in anger and talk about how Simms is a douchebag just one week after praising his analysis when he said something they liked about our beloved Chiefs and/or PMII.

It's not correct. That wasn't a "tight window" throw. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Juju was WIDE OPEN and Cisco was engaged with another WR. He bounced off and hit Juju with a cheap shot.

[Best22]

Mahomes literally guided a pass to be slightly behind Hill in Super Bowl 54 to keep him from getting decapitated, but Hill reached back and bobbled the ball which led to an interception

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The defender made a really good play to get off of his assignment quickly. Mahomes had no way of knowing he was going to do it that fast. Again, look at the screenshot. There's NO WAY this is on Mahomes.

Absolutely spot on take

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Defenders tackle all the time by throwing shoulders and not wrapping up.

Doesn't make it right.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

We'd score 18 PPG if he doesn't throw passes to receivers that NFL wide open...sorry it's true that he should throw that pass 100 out of 100 times

[-King-]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So then my point stands. Look at his arms, he's making no attempt to tackle. He's just flying in there looking to hurt somebody.

He made a good play.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Doesn't make it right.

Doesn't make it wrong either unless they're going helmet to helmet or missing the tackle.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

We'd score 18 PPG if he doesn't throw passes to receivers that NFL wide open...sorry it's true that he should throw that pass 100 out of 100 times

Yeah Juju is wide-open, you throw the ball to him.

And let's just say that Cisco wasn't doing anything malicious and it was a freak accident. Then that's it. There is no story here, it's just a freak play and you move on. But Simms decided instead to make the story about Mahomes decision to throw the ball to a wide-open receiver with multiple yards of separation. He literally places the blame on Mahomes.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Yeah Juju is wide-open, you throw the ball to him.

And let's just say that Cisco wasn't doing anything malicious and it was a freak accident. Then that's it. There is no story here, it's just a freak play and you move on. But Simms decided instead to make the story about Mahomes decision to throw the ball to a wide-open receiver with multiple yards of separation. He literally places the blame on Mahomes.

I thought he was above clickbait but this is obviously what he wanted. Absolutely pathetic.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by -King-

Doesn't make it wrong either unless they're going helmet to helmet or missing the tackle.

More times than not when you launch yourself like that, it ends up with one of those two things taking place.

It's just plain bad football.