The AFC Has Had Enough of Mahomes and KC

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Best22

College and pro.

Made USC relevant (and a national champion) for the first time in 15 years, and it took 15 years after for them to be relevant again

Take away Pete Carroll and that school doesn’t have a national title since the 1970s

To be fair to USC one of the reasons he left was to bail on them after the punishments etc were happening there. He left knowing he would struggle there so there is more to it.

That being said it does seem like the season is showing Carol to be more valuable than realized.

[stevegroganfan]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

To be fair to USC one of the reasons he left was to bail on them after the punishments etc were happening there. He left knowing he would struggle there so there is more to it.

That being said it does seem like the season is showing Carol to be more valuable than realized.

Seattle had a really good draft and Geno has played very well but I credit Geno Smith more than Carroll. Some players genuinely improve and Smith appears to be one of them. It also helps him that he has more talent to work with than he had on the Jets under Rex Ryan and the environment is probably easier since AFC East all outdoor stadiums in bad weather except Miami.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by stevegroganfan

Seattle had a really good draft and Geno has played very well but I credit Geno Smith more than Carroll. Some players genuinely improve and Smith appears to be one of them. It also helps him that he has more talent to work with than he had on the Jets under Rex Ryan and the environment is probably easier since AFC East all outdoor stadiums in bad weather except Miami.

I think part of my amazement for how quickly this seems to have fallen apart is that I just wasn't paying attention to Seattle enough. I thought Wilson was fine up there but apparently he had been deteriorating.