Chiefs Late game FG attempt

O.city · 12-05-2022, 11:27 AM

Andy needs to quit using old school thinking in these situations. Going for the fg attempt there to tie, just not the right choice. Even without hindsight, it was to tie so you're giving the Bengals the ball back.

Don't ever take the ball out of Mahomes hands there. You have an easy way out even if he fails....."well we live and die with Pat so"......

The goal of that drive should have been to either tie it with less than 10 seconds to go or win it in similar fashion with like 30 seconds left.

Mecca · 12-05-2022, 11:29 AM

Yea it was stupid, they should have called a run on the 3rd down knowing it was 4 down territory.

O.city · 12-05-2022, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea it was stupid, they should have called a run on the 3rd down knowing it was 4 down territory.

My dad said this in real time while we were watching.

Run it, get a yard or two at worst then go for it on 4th. They dropped out so you should get the first easily.

**notorious** · 12-05-2022, 11:29 AM

No idea why they didn't go for it.

comochiefsfan · 12-05-2022, 11:30 AM

Andy forgets that he has the best quarterback in the world far too often for my liking.

I can stomach losses when Pat fails.

I cant stomach them when we lose because of a missed field goal and then the defense never gets him the ball back.

Put the game on 15.

Mecca · 12-05-2022, 11:31 AM

I saw the All 22 if the Burrow to Higgins that sealed the game...Williams has great coverage and gets his hand in, it's a perfect throw.

Hammock Parties · 12-05-2022, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

Andy forgets that he has the best quarterback in the world far too often for my liking.

I can stomach losses when Pat fails.

I cant stomach them when we lose because of a missed field goal and then the defense never gets him the ball back.

Put the game on 15.

the putrid thing to think about is if it was 4th and 5 at the 20 with 2 minutes left, andy makes the same decision

staylor26 · 12-05-2022, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I saw the All 22 if the Burrow to Higgins that sealed the game...Williams has great coverage and gets his hand in, it's a perfect throw.

Yea he was understandably very frustrated/upset after the play.

**The Franchise** · 12-05-2022, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I saw the All 22 if the Burrow to Higgins that sealed the game...Williams has great coverage and gets his hand in, it's a perfect throw.

No....Williams sucks according to most people here who don't know shit about decent coverage.

smithandrew051 · 12-05-2022, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea it was stupid, they should have called a run on the 3rd down knowing it was 4 down territory.

Correct. The sack on third down was the killer.

We needed to make sure it would be (at worst) a reasonable 4th down.

The clock was working against us with a field goal to tie it. There was a zero percent chance that the Bengals wouldn’t get at least a field goal with 3 minutes left.

**loochy** · 12-05-2022, 11:34 AM

I might understand if it was 4th and 12 from the 25 yard line. Then ok, yeah, kick the FG. But doing a 55 yarder? I know Butker is good, but Mahomes is gooder.

**Bearcat** · 12-05-2022, 11:35 AM

Yeah, there's just little different between making a FG and still needing a defensive stop with 3 minutes left, missing a FG and needing to make a defensive stop (but sooner) and not converting on 4th down.

The only 'struggle' for the Bengals in the first case is a few additional first downs and making a FG to win. Might as well take your chances and go for it.

Seemed like a decision Staley would make... be aggressive and go for it on 4th downs earlier in the game because you're not staring the L in the face, then go conservative when you really need to be aggressive.

Don't know what the analytics say in that case.

staylor26 · 12-05-2022, 11:36 AM

As for the FG attempt, I completely agree that it should've been 4 down territory.

That was way too long of a kick to take the ball out of Pat's hands.

smithandrew051 · 12-05-2022, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I saw the All 22 if the Burrow to Higgins that sealed the game...Williams has great coverage and gets his hand in, it's a perfect throw.

How close was Danna to disrupting Burrow when he pulled up?

The replays I saw looked like he could’ve gotten there or at least not allowed Burrow to get much on it.

lawrenceRaider · 12-05-2022, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

No idea why they didn't go for it.

I'm starting to think Andy has a Bengals Block. If that game had been against the Raiders, he goes for it instead of trying to tie.

12-05-2022, 11:27 AM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	Late game FG attempt Andy needs to quit using old school thinking in these situations. Going for the fg attempt there to tie, just not the right choice. Even without hindsight, it was to tie so you're giving the Bengals the ball back. Don't ever take the ball out of Mahomes hands there. You have an easy way out even if he fails....."well we live and die with Pat so"...... The goal of that drive should have been to either tie it with less than 10 seconds to go or win it in similar fashion with like 30 seconds left.
Posts: 84,239

12-05-2022, 11:29 AM	#2
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	Yea it was stupid, they should have called a run on the 3rd down knowing it was 4 down territory.
Posts: 115,372	7 0

12-05-2022, 11:29 AM	#4
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-964116	No idea why they didn't go for it.
Posts: 88,588

12-05-2022, 11:30 AM	#5
comochiefsfan MVP Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $-1209600	Andy forgets that he has the best quarterback in the world far too often for my liking. I can stomach losses when Pat fails. I cant stomach them when we lose because of a missed field goal and then the defense never gets him the ball back. Put the game on 15.
Posts: 8,238

12-05-2022, 11:31 AM	#6
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	I saw the All 22 if the Burrow to Higgins that sealed the game...Williams has great coverage and gets his hand in, it's a perfect throw.
Posts: 115,372

12-05-2022, 11:34 AM	#11
loochy Hey Loochy, I'm hooome! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PooPooKaKaPeePeeShire Casino cash: $-1739603	I might understand if it was 4th and 12 from the 25 yard line. Then ok, yeah, kick the FG. But doing a 55 yarder? I know Butker is good, but Mahomes is gooder. __________________ Hey Loochy, I'm hoooome!
Posts: 42,177	2 0

12-05-2022, 11:35 AM	#12
Bearcat Would an idiot do that? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $-1065069	Yeah, there's just little different between making a FG and still needing a defensive stop with 3 minutes left, missing a FG and needing to make a defensive stop (but sooner) and not converting on 4th down. The only 'struggle' for the Bengals in the first case is a few additional first downs and making a FG to win. Might as well take your chances and go for it. Seemed like a decision Staley would make... be aggressive and go for it on 4th downs earlier in the game because you're not staring the L in the face, then go conservative when you really need to be aggressive. Don't know what the analytics say in that case. __________________
Posts: 59,615

12-05-2022, 11:36 AM	#13
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-2110960	As for the FG attempt, I completely agree that it should've been 4 down territory. That was way too long of a kick to take the ball out of Pat's hands.
Posts: 52,912