Chiefs A Levelheaded Review Wk15

DenverChief · 12-18-2022, 03:28 PM

1. The Texans are not as bad as their record would indicate. They pushed a very good Cowboys team in Week 14 to a very close game. Keep that in mind.

2. Isaiah Pacheco, love how hard he runs, needs to get better at pass protection he completely whiffed on that LB stunt blitz on Patrick's 1st sack of the game. His fumble while perplexing is not all that concerning as it's his 4th fumble in 14 games. His last fumble was against JAX and prior to that against the Colts. Rookie mistakes. I'd like to see him more involved in the pass game.

3. Speaking of turnovers they are killing us. The JJSS fumble was just lucky. But we have to do better at holding on to the ball. We gave the Texans short fields to work with on the Pacheco and JJSS fumble that both resulted in Touchdowns. Seems like at least 2 turnovers (fumbles or Int's) in the last 3-4 games.

4. Patrick running the ball is just magic. He knows exactly when to take off and how to hold defenders to keep his running lanes open.

5. Playing to not lose the game, the last 3-4 plays we ran felt like we were playing to not lose instead of get yards to make the FG closer for Butker. Gotta give the the RB's a chance to gain forward yardage.

6. How lucky have we been on coin tosses? Either to start the game or in OT. Seems like we are almost always kicking off and taking the 2nd half kickoff or taking the kickoff in OT. I wonder if that is tracked somewhere?

7.I have said it many times, Toney and Hardman make this offense different. When Toney was in the game they had to account for him. Can't wait for them to both be back on the field. Without them our offense is Kelce, Juju, McKinnon, Pacheco (repeat). Ocassionally Gray, Watson or MVS chip in but you can pretty well bet where the ball is going every play. We need them back badly. Skyy has almost completely disappeared.

8. Willie Gay with the timely turnovers gets the game ball. Last week it was a "pick 6" this week was recovering the OT fumble. Kudos to Frank Clark on generating that turnover.

9. McKinnon in the right place at the right time seems like every week. Great vision on the OT run to end the game.

10. Butker just seems off this year. I'm not sure if it's the ankle or the confidence but he just seems to make terrible kicks at times. I didn't see anything wrong with the snap on either the XP or FG. The XP kick was super ugly.

Extra Point. Penalties, Extremely Ticky Tacky penalty calling against the Chiefs (See Sneed PI in the 4th Q and the Gay defensive holding). Hate to bring this up but I felt like they were being exceptionally picky against the Chiefs.

TLO · 12-18-2022, 03:29 PM

We destroyed them on the stat sheet.

Turnovers and penalties are killing this team.

smithandrew051 · 12-18-2022, 03:30 PM

I posted this in the GDT, but thought it was a pretty crazy stat:

Mahomes was 31-31 when targeting Kelce, Juju, McKinnon, and Gray

Megatron96 · 12-18-2022, 03:31 PM

Something like 5 HOU 3rd downs converted by flags today. Plus the huge field position advantage given on that ridiculous 'blindside' block by jerrick.

turnovers by the offense though, that's been a killer. I had no idea that Pacheco had already racked up 4 fumbles.

comochiefsfan · 12-18-2022, 03:32 PM

The Good:

Mahomes, McKinnon, Kelce

The Bad:

Fumbling, Defense, Penalties (some Cheffers bullshit in there but still),

The ugly-

Andy and EB's game management, Harrison Butker

Otter · 12-18-2022, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief

10. Butker just seems off this year. I'm not sure if it's the ankle or the confidence but he just seems to make terrible kicks at times. I didn't see anything wrong with the snap on either the XP or FG. The XP kick was super ugly.

"seems"

Chris Meck · 12-18-2022, 03:33 PM

agreed on all counts.

BWillie · 12-18-2022, 03:33 PM

I really think it is a crazy stat that the Chiefs are the best team on 3rd downs in general but one of the worst teams on 3rd and short.

comochiefsfan · 12-18-2022, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

"seems"

Butker has always had XP problems and now that he isn't making field goals either he's a straight up liability.

warpaint* · 12-18-2022, 03:33 PM

The Chiefs turned it over twice, committed 100 yards in penalties, missed an xp and fg and the Texans are so bad they won anyway.

It was frankly an embarrassing performance but a wins a win.

493rd · 12-18-2022, 03:34 PM

You’d think that at some point the turnover trend over the last 9 games would reverse course. If it doesn’t it’ll likely be an early exit in the playoffs.

Coogs · 12-18-2022, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Something like 5 HOU 3rd downs converted by flags today. Plus the huge field position advantage given on that ridiculous 'blindside' block by jerrick.

turnovers by the offense though, that's been a killer. I had no idea that Pacheco had already racked up 4 fumbles.

I think we have only lost 2 of those 4 fumbles. That probably why you had no idea. I didn't either, so I looked it up.

Megatron96 · 12-18-2022, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

I think we have only lost 2 of those 4 fumbles. That probably why you had no idea. I didn't either, so I looked it up.

As a team we're turning the ball way too much though. At critical times. I don't care how good your defense is or QB, if you turn the ball over multiple times in the NFL against anybody, it's hard to win.

tredadda · 12-18-2022, 04:04 PM

The good: KC won, Mahomes was elite today along with Kelce and McKinnon. Pacheco ran well outside of that fumble.

The bad: Turnovers, Butker, the defense was porous and very rarely made a stop when needed, and (while I hate saying it) very questionable and uneven officiating.

Regardless a win is a win, but I struggle to see how KC wins it all with how the defense and Butker are playing.

poolboy · 12-18-2022, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

We destroyed them on the stat sheet.

Turnovers and officials are killing this team.

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12-18-2022, 03:28 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Levelheaded Review Wk15 1. The Texans are not as bad as their record would indicate. They pushed a very good Cowboys team in Week 14 to a very close game. Keep that in mind. 2. Isaiah Pacheco, love how hard he runs, needs to get better at pass protection he completely whiffed on that LB stunt blitz on Patrick's 1st sack of the game. His fumble while perplexing is not all that concerning as it's his 4th fumble in 14 games. His last fumble was against JAX and prior to that against the Colts. Rookie mistakes. I'd like to see him more involved in the pass game. 3. Speaking of turnovers they are killing us. The JJSS fumble was just lucky. But we have to do better at holding on to the ball. We gave the Texans short fields to work with on the Pacheco and JJSS fumble that both resulted in Touchdowns. Seems like at least 2 turnovers (fumbles or Int's) in the last 3-4 games. 4. Patrick running the ball is just magic. He knows exactly when to take off and how to hold defenders to keep his running lanes open. 5. Playing to not lose the game, the last 3-4 plays we ran felt like we were playing to not lose instead of get yards to make the FG closer for Butker. Gotta give the the RB's a chance to gain forward yardage. 6. How lucky have we been on coin tosses? Either to start the game or in OT. Seems like we are almost always kicking off and taking the 2nd half kickoff or taking the kickoff in OT. I wonder if that is tracked somewhere? 7.I have said it many times, Toney and Hardman make this offense different. When Toney was in the game they had to account for him. Can't wait for them to both be back on the field. Without them our offense is Kelce, Juju, McKinnon, Pacheco (repeat). Ocassionally Gray, Watson or MVS chip in but you can pretty well bet where the ball is going every play. We need them back badly. Skyy has almost completely disappeared. 8. Willie Gay with the timely turnovers gets the game ball. Last week it was a "pick 6" this week was recovering the OT fumble. Kudos to Frank Clark on generating that turnover. 9. McKinnon in the right place at the right time seems like every week. Great vision on the OT run to end the game. 10. Butker just seems off this year. I'm not sure if it's the ankle or the confidence but he just seems to make terrible kicks at times. I didn't see anything wrong with the snap on either the XP or FG. The XP kick was super ugly. Extra Point. Penalties, Extremely Ticky Tacky penalty calling against the Chiefs (See Sneed PI in the 4th Q and the Gay defensive holding). Hate to bring this up but I felt like they were being exceptionally picky against the Chiefs.
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-1999600	Something like 5 HOU 3rd downs converted by flags today. Plus the huge field position advantage given on that ridiculous 'blindside' block by jerrick. turnovers by the offense though, that's been a killer. I had no idea that Pacheco had already racked up 4 fumbles. __________________ *“Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them.”*- George Orwell Steven "Spags" Spagnuolo is my Adopt-A-Chief!!!
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12-18-2022, 03:32 PM	#5
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tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $-2024947	The good: KC won, Mahomes was elite today along with Kelce and McKinnon. Pacheco ran well outside of that fumble. The bad: Turnovers, Butker, the defense was porous and very rarely made a stop when needed, and (while I hate saying it) very questionable and uneven officiating. Regardless a win is a win, but I struggle to see how KC wins it all with how the defense and Butker are playing.
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