I'm changing my stripes. I have a new plan for the defensive line.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I think the Commanders ARE a team that makes sense as a trade partner. They have a lot of defensive line talent that are ripe for extensions and can't keep them all. They're all-in on Allen, it looks like they're all-in on Payne, and they have two DEs coming up for extensions now/next year, too.

I also look at that team, its head coach, and think it might be a team for which Orlando Brown Jr. makes sense at T.

Is there a path here that involves swapping Orlando Brown Jr. and some draft capital for whichever DL they are not committing to long term (Payne? Sweat?).

It's a tough decision for them. I don't think Sweat breaks the bank too bad. He's a really solid end but I don't think he's a "plus" end that gets into the 20+ range. 15-17 per, probably. If I'm going there, why not try to swing for Ngakoue and not spend a pick/player on anything?

Could they trade Payne? Absolutely. They SHOULD trade him and they likely will. They are still going to have to tag him to trade him, so we can't just waltz in there and sign him. We also probably shouldn't make the trade unless it is a player swap. My opinion is that it's going to take a 1st even if they have no intention to keep him around, which I'd assume is the case since they drafted Phidarian Mathis at 47 last year.

If they take OBJ for Payne if they both get tagged? Yeah, make it happen.

If they let him walk? Oh yeah, I'm 100% all-in at that point. Go get that monster.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

It's a tough decision for them. I don't think Sweat breaks the bank too bad. He's a really solid end but I don't think he's a "plus" end that gets into the 20+ range. 15-17 per, probably. If I'm going there, why not try to swing for Ngakoue and not spend a pick/player on anything?

Could they trade Payne? Absolutely. They SHOULD trade him and they likely will. They are still going to have to tag him to trade him, so we can't just waltz in there and sign him. We also probably shouldn't make the trade unless it is a player swap. My opinion is that it's going to take a 1st even if they have no intention to keep him around, which I'd assume is the case since they drafted Phidarian Mathis at 47 last year.

If they take OBJ for Payne if they both get tagged? Yeah, make it happen.

If they let him walk? Oh yeah, I'm 100% all-in at that point. Go get that monster.

I think Sweat is quite a bit better player than Ngakoue.

Depending on the draft capital in question, I think Sweat at a similar cap hit to Yannick would be worth the trade capital.

But if you're talking about a pick in the first or 2nd round? Eh...may pivot at that point.

That said, I'm pretty down on Ngakoue - he's just very quiet in between his splash plays. It's possible I'm not giving him enough credit - but he doesn't seem like a disruptive player as much as a guy who just shows up in spurts.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think Sweat is quite a bit better player than Ngakoue.

Depending on the draft capital in question, I think Sweat at a similar cap hit to Yannick would be worth the trade capital.

But if you're talking about a pick in the first or 2nd round? Eh...may pivot at that point.

That said, I'm pretty down on Ngakoue - he's just very quiet in between his splash plays. It's possible I'm not giving him enough credit - but he doesn't seem like a disruptive player as much as a guy who just shows up in spurts.

They got Sweat with a first rounder, IIRC, right?

I wonder if a similar comp would be the OBJ trade. We give up our 1st, they send a 2/3 back?

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think Sweat is quite a bit better player than Ngakoue.

Depending on the draft capital in question, I think Sweat at a similar cap hit to Yannick would be worth the trade capital.

But if you're talking about a pick in the first or 2nd round? Eh...may pivot at that point.

That said, I'm pretty down on Ngakoue - he's just very quiet in between his splash plays. It's possible I'm not giving him enough credit - but he doesn't seem like a disruptive player as much as a guy who just shows up in spurts.

Glad to know I'm not the only one thinking this.