I'm changing my stripes. I have a new plan for the defensive line.

[kccrow]

I wouldn't trade for Brian Burns. Why do we have to visit throwing every draft resource we have plus a good chunk of the cap resource we have with these visions of trading for a guy that's going to cost more than two 1sts? Legit he's going to cost no less than two 1's and a 3 and maybe more.

Not a chance.

As for getting speed rushers, there are always plenty of guys at the end of 1 and through the mid-2nd that fit. Felix and McDonald are prime-A examples of guys that probably end up in that range. They aren't great run defenders and are a bit light, but they are fast and regularly threaten the arc. Just take one of those guys.

Our more significant issue right now is needing two pillar positions in one off-season and how to combat that. You absolutely can't do it if you're trading everything away only to pay the guy too.

Ngakoue might not be the perfect solution, but he's ****-all less of a total resource cost than trading for Sweat or Burns or whatever flavor of the day.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't need one that can be an 'ass-kicker'.

Just one that can be fast. A 3rd down rotational player who can just be fast.

I don't care if that ends up being Leo Chenal at this point. Just give me a rotational player who can challenge the arc. That's it and that's not hard to find. Guys like Nick Bonitto go in the 3rd every year.

Originally Posted by kccrow

I wouldn't trade for Brian Burns. Why do we have to visit throwing every draft resource we have plus a good chunk of the cap resource we have with these visions of trading for a guy that's going to cost more than two 1sts? Legit he's going to cost no less than two 1's and a 3 and maybe more.

Not a chance.

As for getting speed rushers, there are always plenty of guys at the end of 1 and through the mid-2nd that fit. Felix and McDonald are prime-A examples of guys that probably end up in that range. They aren't great run defenders and are a bit light, but they are fast and regularly threaten the arc. Just take one of those guys.

Our more significant issue right now is needing two pillar positions in one off-season and how to combat that. You absolutely can't do it if you're trading everything away only to pay the guy too.

Ngakoue might not be the perfect solution, but he's ****-all less of a total resource cost than trading for Sweat or Burns or whatever flavor of the day.

The issue is gonna be, I'm just not sure you can fill 2 pilar spots in an offseason without being aggressive.

They aren't gonna fill the DE and T spot with draft picks. Based on their history, it's just not gonna be the way they go about it. They'll do one thru the draft and be aggressive on the other somehow.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I wouldn't trade for Brian Burns. Why do we have to visit throwing every draft resource we have plus a good chunk of the cap resource we have with these visions of trading for a guy that's going to cost more than two 1sts? Legit he's going to cost no less than two 1's and a 3 and maybe more.

Not a chance.

As for getting speed rushers, there are always plenty of guys at the end of 1 and through the mid-2nd that fit. Felix and McDonald are prime-A examples of guys that probably end up in that range. They aren't great run defenders and are a bit light, but they are fast and regularly threaten the arc. Just take one of those guys.

Our more significant issue right now is needing two pillar positions in one off-season and how to combat that. You absolutely can't do it if you're trading everything away only to pay the guy too.

Ngakoue might not be the perfect solution, but he's ****-all less of a total resource cost than trading for Sweat or Burns or whatever flavor of the day.

I wouldn't trade for Burns, either.

The only trade I'm really considering for a DE guy is either a late round (5-6-7) pick for a reclamation type, or if I'm using Orlando Brown, Jr. as part of the trade capital.

Brown and a 3rd or 4th? Sure, let's talk about it. Otherwise, nah man. Find your own complementary guy.

Do at DE what the Chiefs did at WR this year. Build a complementary room that improves overall even if it doesn't have an alpha star.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I wouldn't trade for Burns, either.

The only trade I'm really considering for a DE guy is either a late round (5-6-7) pick for a reclamation type, or if I'm using Orlando Brown, Jr. as part of the trade capital.

Brown and a 3rd or 4th? Sure, let's talk about it. Otherwise, nah man. Find your own complementary guy.

Do at DE what the Chiefs did at WR this year. Build a complementary room that improves overall even if it doesn't have an alpha star.

I'm definitely open to that. Think it's probably the better idea.

But it's also not one or the other. If they trade for a guy, I'd look to stock more in there too.