Could Sean Peyton wind up in AZ?

[Gary Cooper]

What's so special about Sean Peyton? He had a prime Drew Brees and went to one Super Bowl.

Yes, I know the refs screwed them in 2018, but that doesn't absolve him of other playoff failures or for that matter other mistakes in that 2018 game.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

What's so special about Sean Peyton? He had a prime Drew Brees and went to one Super Bowl.

Yes, I know the refs screwed them in 2018, but that doesn't absolve him of other playoff failures or for that matter other mistakes in that 2018 game.

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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

What's so special about Sean Peyton? He had a prime Drew Brees and went to one Super Bowl.

Yes, I know the refs screwed them in 2018, but that doesn't absolve him of other playoff failures or for that matter other mistakes in that 2018 game.

And what did people say about Andy Reid?

As good as Brees was he was also horrible in weather. Which made road playoff games particularly difficult. To his credit his team was really good across eras. Defense, offense always adjusted to the times. He’s not a mike mccarthy that got exposed with time.

Our coach is way better but Payton is still a hell of a coach.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And what did people say about Andy Reid?

As good as Brees was he was also horrible in weather. Which made road playoff games particularly difficult. To his credit his team was really good across eras. Defense, offense always adjusted to the times. He’s not a mike mccarthy that got exposed with time.

Our coach is way better but Payton is still a hell of a coach.

QBs make coaches look smarter. Reid was a good regular season coach who became a playoff winner after Mahomes became starter. Peyton Manning took three different coaches to a Super Bowl (all defensive minded head coaches). I've never seen the big deal with Sean Payton. I suppose he wasn't as bad as McCarthy though, like you said.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

What's so special about Sean Peyton? He had a prime Drew Brees and went to one Super Bowl.

Yes, I know the refs screwed them in 2018, but that doesn't absolve him of other playoff failures or for that matter other mistakes in that 2018 game.

Skip the playoff record for now; there's so many possible reasons for Payton not having more rings that have nothing to do with him it would take months to talk about all of them. And we probably still wouldn't be able to come to an agreement which issues were really the problem(s).

Sean has been a universally respected HC for a long time. Every organization respects him, and perhaps more importantly, none of them have 'owned' Sean Payton. He's a coach that doesn't fit into an easy to define box that other coaches can just take advantage of.

Further, Sean Payton has been one of the top offensive-minded HCs in the league for decades; I don't think there's any argument otherwise. Every DC over the last 20 years or so will vouch for that, so I think that's a settled issue.

Also, he's been a QB whisperer for most if not all of his career. He's been able, like Andy/Pederson/McVay/Harbaugh, to make QBs better. That's a relatively rare and valuable skill for a HC.

Then you add in the experience; how many hot, young coaches have we watched just shit the bed on what fans would consider to be relatively routine decisions? Sean isn't going to make any of those mistakes, regardless of situation or how big the moment, because he's been there countless times. So he's not going to Kliff-burger/McDaniels/Hackett/Josh a situation, ever.

So whatever else you can say about Sean, he's got the experience and the skillsets that make him one of the best options at HC right now.