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Old 12-30-2022, 09:47 PM   #1126
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If Veach goes and gets a true #1 wr after re-signing Juju…and trading for Toney…and drafting Skyy Moore…I’m not sure how you defend that.
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Old 12-30-2022, 10:03 PM   #1127
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We might end up getting Hardman for another year due to his injury status.

Chiefs need to be in the hunt for a #1WR in the draft to pair with JuJu
Our #1 is Kelce. I'm cool with a bunch of 2's until he declines.
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:40 AM   #1128
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If Veach goes and gets a true #1 wr after re-signing Juju…and trading for Toney…and drafting Skyy Moore…I’m not sure how you defend that.
I do believe with issues like DE and OT that we need to invest money there. I'm fine letting Mahomes skill help us save money at the WR position. We do need to draft one to try to fit that #1 skill set we are missing.
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:44 AM   #1129
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Deciding between him and Hardman is going to be tough.
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:55 AM   #1130
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Old 12-31-2022, 12:09 PM   #1131
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Please God, hear my prayer, and don't let Andy and Veach listen to this schlock about not needing a WR1, so KC doesn't go down the road to being GB West for the next ten years. Give us a true WR1 so KC can win at least 3 more rings before the end of the decade. Thanks.
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Old 12-31-2022, 12:12 PM   #1132
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Please God, hear my prayer, and don't let Andy and Veach listen to this schlock about not needing a WR1, so KC doesn't go down the road to being GB West for the next ten years. Give us a true WR1 so KC can win at least 3 more rings before the end of the decade. Thanks.
If we're paying top of the market, then we won't be winning 3 rings with huge, gaping holes at OT and DE.

We're the ****ing #1 offense in football as it stands. Better play up front > #1 WR.

No, we don't have time to run WASP.
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Old 12-31-2022, 12:33 PM   #1133
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The reason you invest in WR at some point is because Travis Kelce will not do what he's doing much longer.
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Old 12-31-2022, 12:39 PM   #1134
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Please God, hear my prayer, and don't let Andy and Veach listen to this schlock about not needing a WR1, so KC doesn't go down the road to being GB West for the next ten years. Give us a true WR1 so KC can win at least 3 more rings before the end of the decade. Thanks.

Keep drafting them. **** paying these prices for the position
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Old 12-31-2022, 12:51 PM   #1135
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Keep drafting them. **** paying these prices for the position
That's the most cost-effective option. Problem is getting lucky and drafting one.

But take the D. Hopkins example. Let's say he could be had for around $20M/yr. About 5M less than what Tyreek wanted, iirc. He would instantly change how defenses could play KC. Thre would be little to no option for boxing Kelce on every passing snap and rolling the dice singling every other receiver. DHop would have to be accounted for most of the time with some kind of double/bracket or whatever.

And yeah, most of the time it doesn't seem necessary when KC is again the no. 1 offense this season, but we're kind of forgetting just how many times really good defenses stalled this offense, and those are the defenses we'll be playing in the postseason more often than not. Having a true WR1 would tilt that dynamic in our favor again and make it basically impossible for teams to simply man press our receivers; they'd have to do something about it.

And it should be doable, if a top-tier WR is available, considering that Veach was perfectly willing to pay Tyreek $25M, and sign OBJ, extend CJ and so on.

Obviously, none of this works if said receiver wanted top-3 money, but top-10 money might be doable, is all I'm saying.
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That's the most cost-effective option. Problem is getting lucky and drafting one.

But take the D. Hopkins example. Let's say he could be had for around $20M/yr. About 5M less than what Tyreek wanted, iirc. He would instantly change how defenses could play KC. Thre would be little to no option for boxing Kelce on every passing snap and rolling the dice singling every other receiver. DHop would have to be accounted for most of the time with some kind of double/bracket or whatever.

And yeah, most of the time it doesn't seem necessary when KC is again the no. 1 offense this season, but we're kind of forgetting just how many times really good defenses stalled this offense, and those are the defenses we'll be playing in the postseason more often than not. Having a true WR1 would tilt that dynamic in our favor again and make it basically impossible for teams to simply man press our receivers; they'd have to do something about it.

And it should be doable, if a top-tier WR is available, considering that Veach was perfectly willing to pay Tyreek $25M, and sign OBJ, extend CJ and so on.

Obviously, none of this works if said receiver wanted top-3 money, but top-10 money might be doable, is all I'm saying.
20 million per year for DHop, who is over 30 with a huge injury history and can't ever seem to stay on the field any more. Nah.

That's not even considering if he gets popped again how much time that would take away from being on the field. Nah.
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That's the most cost-effective option. Problem is getting lucky and drafting one.

But take the D. Hopkins example. Let's say he could be had for around $20M/yr. About 5M less than what Tyreek wanted, iirc. He would instantly change how defenses could play KC. Thre would be little to no option for boxing Kelce on every passing snap and rolling the dice singling every other receiver. DHop would have to be accounted for most of the time with some kind of double/bracket or whatever.

And yeah, most of the time it doesn't seem necessary when KC is again the no. 1 offense this season, but we're kind of forgetting just how many times really good defenses stalled this offense, and those are the defenses we'll be playing in the postseason more often than not. Having a true WR1 would tilt that dynamic in our favor again and make it basically impossible for teams to simply man press our receivers; they'd have to do something about it.

And it should be doable, if a top-tier WR is available, considering that Veach was perfectly willing to pay Tyreek $25M, and sign OBJ, extend CJ and so on.

Obviously, none of this works if said receiver wanted top-3 money, but top-10 money might be doable, is all I'm saying.
If we paid for Hopkins, we'd have...

the slightly more oneish offense than the number one offense we have?

I mean, is that really the best allocation of resources?

No. That's stupid.

Whenever Mahomes and the offense don't have their heads up their asses, they move the ball and score at will. There is no problem other than the times when they just sort of lose focus and screw up.

Now, defensively? Huge hole at DE. Not in position to typically draft one. That's an expensive position to fill in free agency.

Offensive tackle? Well, it would be nice to keep Mahomes upright, and it would be nice to be able to run the ball more effectively. Not typically in position to draft a LT, but probably to draft a RT.

Got a Juju situation to figure out. Got a LT situation. and a RT situation. And a DE situation. Who we paying, who's walking?

And you guys want to pay top of the market for a WR?

No, man.

Draft and develop.

Hill had 11.2 ypc last year. Have you forgotten?

What's Juju's average this year? 11.9

He's literally MORE PRODUCTIVE per catch than Hill was last year.

How about we fill the gaping holes and quit worrying about Deandre Hopkins?
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If the injury concerns are lessened, Toney can be a weapon on par with what we see from a top 10 WR in this league. He absolutely has those traits.

You know what I was also thinking?

How long until we get Jameson Williams from Detroit for a similar deal as Toney?

He can’t be thrilled being healthy and being used as a gunner on ST snd getting little to no action as a WR.

It’s only a matter of time till they ruin him and he wants out.
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