Chiefs If fully healthy, this could be the greatest offense we've ever watched - Page 2

dlphg9 · 01-09-2023, 01:27 PM

This is going to be exciting as **** if Hardman can play at full strength. The possibility of having Kelce, JJSS, McKinnon, Toney, and Hardman all on the field together and healthy for the 1st time is amazing. Add in a damn good RB in Pacheco and this could literally be the best offense that we've ever seen.

Imagine the shit Andy can come up with like Hardman and Toney in the backfield at the same time or McKinnon and Toney/Hardman in the backfield with Toney/Hardman potentially coming around for a jet sweep. Having JJSS as a more than competent receiving option this year and Hardman and Toney's speed is literally going to be an absolute nightmare for opposing teams.

I'm really excited for these playoff games, just gotta hope that everyone gets healed up over the next 2 weeks. HFA is huge.

So excited.

**ChiTown** · 01-09-2023, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake

So, what's the latest on Hardman?

He'll be back for the Divisional Round

Hammock Parties · 01-09-2023, 01:56 PM

My wild postseason prediction: Kadarius Toney SB MVP

4 catches, 80 yards, 1 TD
2 rushes, 30 yards, 1 TD
1 completion, 40 yards, 1 TD

Megatron96 · 01-09-2023, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

Didn't we score 35 a game for a good stretch once with Reek, Hunt, and a healthy Sammy?

something like that. However, every team wasn't running some version of the Fangio 6 either, not yet.

But yea, having an elite WR1, a top 20 WR2 (who could've been a decent WR1 if could ever stay healthy), and a top-5 RB made everything a lot easier.

DenverChief · 01-09-2023, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Yup; said exact same in DC's wk 18 thread.

Kelce + Toney + JJSS + Hardman + McKinnon = pick your poison. Any of those guys can kill you, esp if they double-team or play a deep shell

you forgot Pop

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**Bearcat** · 01-09-2023, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

You really do get the feeling the Chiefs have been holding back.

Yeah, I think they dipped into the playbook a bit against the Raiders, almost as a "hey guys, here's something else you'll have to deal with"... I'm sure mostly to get Toney involved a bit before the playoffs.

I don't think it's anything crazy, like they'll start airing it out, but I feel like we'll see some new wrinkles and more jet sweeps and getting the speed guys the ball quickl, etc.

Really seemed like they flipped a switch and went into playoff mode.

DenverChief · 01-09-2023, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, I think they dipped into the playbook a bit against the Raiders, almost as a "hey guys, here's something else you'll have to deal with"... I'm sure mostly to get Toney involved a bit before the playoffs.

I don't think it's anything crazy, like they'll start airing it out, but I feel like we'll see some new wrinkles and more jet sweeps and getting the speed guys the ball quickl, etc.

Really seemed like they flipped a switch and went into playoff mode.

yep

Kman34 · 01-09-2023, 01:58 PM

Offensive Viagra…

Coochie liquor · 01-09-2023, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

You really do get the feeling the Chiefs have been holding back.

Same, feels like we’ve been doing just enough to get by. But Andy is about to unleash hell upon the league, and it’s name is Playoff Patrick!

Megatron96 · 01-09-2023, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

You really do get the feeling the Chiefs have been holding back.

Not holding back, necessarily. Andy had 4 brand-new WRs to deal with this season. And he's been pretty open about it; he's always installed the fundamentals first, the root plays, then worked in the 'wrinkles' as the season wears on.

Right now, most of these guys are still in the fundamentals stage. JJSS probably has the bulk of the option routes after Kelce. Hardman has to have some by now. Justin, Skyy and Toney, just as examples, probably have none. Trick plays are a different animal, but Pat said that it took until a couple weeks ago to get that snowglobe play put into a game install.

But they are an integral part of an Andy offense, and we know he installs at least one every week, just most don't get onto the field. So we'll almost definitely see several int he playoffs, assuming we don't get blown out in the first game.

neech · 01-09-2023, 02:10 PM

Chiefs will have extra week to prepare I love it.

crispystl · 01-09-2023, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't get the sense they're holding back, but they certainly have yet to play their best game.

You don't think they've been sandbagging the playbook to some extent?

HC_Chief · 01-09-2023, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

you forgot Pop

via GIPHY

Can't have him on at the same time as the other five. You could sub him for one tho

ThaVirus · 01-09-2023, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

Didn't we score 35 a game for a good stretch once with Reek, Hunt, and a healthy Sammy?

Yeah, we actually averaged 35 ppg for the entire 2018 season lol insane.

And, tbh, that wasn't even the best offense of all time.

Megatron96 · 01-09-2023, 02:30 PM

I just remembered; yesterday I was watching some show, and they said that Andy tended to open up the playbook in the last week or two of the season, to force DCs to have to account for what could be run from those concepts. In common language, Andy likes to eff with people.

It was RGR. That was the show.

DJ's left nut · 01-09-2023, 02:33 PM

I reiterate, you beat the cover 2 with speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed.

Y'all can have your 'physical' WRs and 'zone beaters' who don't actually have any stand out skills to speak of.

I want jackrabbits. You give me Toney, Hardman and MVS out on that field with Kelce and this offense will hum like we haven't ever seen.

You can only cover so much grass, fellas. The limiting factor that has historically existed on this approach was the QB, but our QB can challenge every square inch of turf.

So give him targets that can get to them.

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dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1600347	If fully healthy, this could be the greatest offense we've ever watched This is going to be exciting as **** if Hardman can play at full strength. The possibility of having Kelce, JJSS, McKinnon, Toney, and Hardman all on the field together and healthy for the 1st time is amazing. Add in a damn good RB in Pacheco and this could literally be the best offense that we've ever seen. Imagine the shit Andy can come up with like Hardman and Toney in the backfield at the same time or McKinnon and Toney/Hardman in the backfield with Toney/Hardman potentially coming around for a jet sweep. Having JJSS as a more than competent receiving option this year and Hardman and Toney's speed is literally going to be an absolute nightmare for opposing teams. I'm really excited for these playoff games, just gotta hope that everyone gets healed up over the next 2 weeks. HFA is huge. So excited.
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