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Old 01-14-2023, 12:00 PM  
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:17 PM   #2266
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:57 PM   #2267
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Old 01-15-2023, 12:20 AM   #2268
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Holy shot. Barely squeaked that in.

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Old 01-15-2023, 12:48 AM   #2269
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Pffft. This doesn't make those first 4 int disappear.
No, it doesn't. But fyi, at least two of those INTs were just ridiculous. The first one was lucky as hell, and there was another one that was a really good ball, but the DB made a circus catch on it.

But just the fact that he could come back from as horrific a start as that means that it's possible for him to shrug that off and go out and have a huge day. Says something about his character. So does the fact that his team didn't quit even after that spectacularly bad beginning.

The other part that helped was that Staley, the metrics guru, decided that he should play Mike Williams in a meaningless game last week and got him injured, as well as Bosa. And then in this game, he decides, after gaining a 27-0 lead, he should only run the ball 8 times.

They scored a total of 3 points in the 2nd half.

Metrics is awesome stuff. Just not the complete answer.

Oh, wait. Were talking about the pie?
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Old 01-15-2023, 05:33 AM   #2270
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Glad its Jax. Would be better if Ravens.
Hell no. Ravens are a much better team than JAX, and somehow beating Cincy without Lamar would obviously reflect that.

JAX is a gift for us. I expect a similar repeat of our game with them not long ago, but more convincing.
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Old 01-15-2023, 06:06 AM   #2271
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No, it doesn't. But fyi, at least two of those INTs were just ridiculous. The first one was lucky as hell, and there was another one that was a really good ball, but the DB made a circus catch on it.

But just the fact that he could come back from as horrific a start as that means that it's possible for him to shrug that off and go out and have a huge day. Says something about his character. So does the fact that his team didn't quit even after that spectacularly bad beginning.

The other part that helped was that Staley, the metrics guru, decided that he should play Mike Williams in a meaningless game last week and got him injured, as well as Bosa. And then in this game, he decides, after gaining a 27-0 lead, he should only run the ball 8 times.

They scored a total of 3 points in the 2nd half.

Metrics is awesome stuff. Just not the complete answer.

Oh, wait. Were talking about the pie?
If Herbert and Chargers offense didn't completely collapse in the 2nd half against a defense that has been poor all season, Lawrence's game is seen in a far, far different light.

I will say that he looked completely shell shocked and on the verge of mentally giving up in the first half (nobody has ever seen anything as bad as 4 picks and 3 three-and-outs to start a game before) and somehow got out of that rut in time to still make a difference in the game. That's something. Overall, though, he still sucked yesterday.
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Old 01-15-2023, 07:41 AM   #2272
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If Herbert and Chargers offense didn't completely collapse in the 2nd half against a defense that has been poor all season, Lawrence's game is seen in a far, far different light.

I will say that he looked completely shell shocked and on the verge of mentally giving up in the first half (nobody has ever seen anything as bad as 4 picks and 3 three-and-outs to start a game before) and somehow got out of that rut in time to still make a difference in the game. That's something. Overall, though, he still sucked yesterday.
He seemed to let the momentum overwhelm him. I think young players think that everything needs to go perfect to win the games and when they go down one or two scores they think they need to play desperate.

I can actually forgive the first two interceptions. The first one was a double deflection and the second one was a fourth down throw and I think QB's naturally take chances in those spots. The rest was horrific. The three announce were actually harder to look at than some of the picks.
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Old 01-15-2023, 07:57 AM   #2273
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If any pussy on this board starts talking scared about the chargers ever again…
herbert has no killer instinct

punt
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that's his last seven possessions

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4th & Goal at JAX 5
(4:25 - 2nd) C.Dicker 23 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-J.Harris, Holder-J.Scott.
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:16 AM   #2274
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Seems like the Chargers made a mistake kicking that field goal towards the end.

They were up 10 at the Jacksonville 22. It was 4th and 3.

Even if you make the field goal, the lead is only 13. That’s still a 2 possession game.

The Chargers had been moving the ball pretty well that drive, so I think they should’ve gone for the kill. That game is over if the Chargers score a TD.

Kinda like when a team scores a TD to go up 7 late. It’s better to go for 2, so you can lead by 9 than kick the extra point to lead by 8.
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:20 AM   #2275
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Seems like the Chargers made a mistake kicking that field goal towards the end.

They were up 10 at the Jacksonville 22. It was 4th and 3.

Even if you make the field goal, the lead is only 13. That’s still a 2 possession game.

The Chargers had been moving the ball pretty well that drive, so I think they should’ve gone for the kill. That game is over if the Chargers score a TD.

Kinda like when a team scores a TD to go up 7 late. It’s better to go for 2, so you can lead by 9 than kick the extra point to lead by 8.
100%. I said that to the group I was with watching the game. A lot of these "I'm crazy and go for it all the time" coaches actually tend to puss when they need to go for it the most. Staley was a perfect example there. When you have a chance for a kill shot, you take it.
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:25 AM   #2276
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100%. I said that to the group I was with watching the game. A lot of these "I'm crazy and go for it all the time" coaches actually tend to puss when they need to go for it the most. Staley was a perfect example there. When you have a chance for a kill shot, you take it.
I always think of these things in terms of what would I want teams to do against the Chiefs.

I would have been very relieved to see the kicker run on the field if I was a Jags fan. That alone tells me the Chargers made the wrong decision.
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that's his last seven possessions

you had to get seven here
Yeah 3’s aren’t going to win very many games.
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I’m probably alone in this thinking but I’m rooting for the Bills and Bengals today.

I want to see the game I was wanting to see a couple of weeks ago.
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I’m probably alone in this thinking but I’m rooting for the Bills and Bengals today.

I want to see the game I was wanting to see a couple of weeks ago.
Well, good news for you then. The chances of that game not happening are very, very slim.
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100%. I said that to the group I was with watching the game. A lot of these "I'm crazy and go for it all the time" coaches actually tend to puss when they need to go for it the most. Staley was a perfect example there. When you have a chance for a kill shot, you take it.
Staley has definitely toned down the aggression this season. I think he let all of the bullying from his failed 4th down attempts last season go to his head.

I’m not an old school purist or anything but there are certainly times when I’m like “**** going for it, I’d rather take the 3 points”. You’ll win some and lose some on those choices, but you’ve got to stand on the decisions you do make.
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