Let's talk about the Jaguars (AFC Divisional Round)

[Bearcat]

Discuss.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Eh. Actually, LAC did the opposite of cruising. Check the play-by-play. They stopped running the ball almost entirely in the 2nd half. It's incomplete pass immediately followed by incomplete pass followed by incomplete pass . . . in short, they helped JAX to get back in the game because they refused to burn down the clock with their run game. And in the first half they were moderately successful running, mostly around the edges, but they were getting 4 yards or so per rush outside.

But in LAC's first two drives of the 2nd half, which started 27-7 (LAC), they went 14 plays for a total of 82 yards, kicked a FG, but only used up 4:30-ish of the clock. They ran the ball just twice.

LAC basically kept giving JAX time and opportunities to get back in the game.

And JAX had to do something we've seen before from teams like TEN, CLE, NYJ, etc., in that they aren't a quick strike team; they have to march down the field 10 plays at a time, eating up the clock, just to score. Which is what they did vs. LAC with three 10+ play drives.

Andy isn't going to let that happen. He's going to get that big lead, then burn the clock down just like always does, and JAX simply won't have enough time to run all those plays to get back in the game.

I've probably defended Andy's game management more than anyone on this board.

But one game I simply cannot defend, the game I've always said "yeah, he ****ed that up" - was EXACTLY the game you just insisted he wouldn't have.

Reid vs. the Colts in 2013 was a textbook example of making it possible for a team to come back. Do I think that's the sort of thing he'd do again? No - probably not. But he does have it in him so you can't dismiss the possibility.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Jags are a fun team. Love your coach. If they weren’t playing the Chiefs, I’d root for them in the playoffs.

That said, Cisco is an absolute piece of shit and I won’t shed a single tear if he ends up getting laid out or knocked out of the game. Hopefully Bell can blindside him on a TE screen or something and give him a little taste of his own medicine.

I think the game will actually end up a little closer than some people think, but I just can’t picture a universe where this itineration of the Jags comes into Arrowhead in the playoffs and knocks off the Chiefs. I mean, I get ‘any given Sunday’, but I just don’t see it.

Chiefs 31 Jags 20. Probably a late TD to make it look a little closer than it really was. I get the Jags played a hell of a second half against the Chargers. But that was the Chargers. They are know for that sort of thing. The Chiefs are definitely NOT the Chargers.

We’ll be ready.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I've probably defended Andy's game management more than anyone on this board.

But one game I simply cannot defend, the game I've always said "yeah, he ****ed that up" - was EXACTLY the game you just insisted he wouldn't have.

Reid vs. the Colts in 2013 was a textbook example of making it possible for a team to come back. Do I think that's the sort of thing he'd do again? No - probably not. But he does have it in him so you can't dismiss the possibility.

Wait, which IND game? Not this season?

Well, I guess it doesn't matter exactly which. I think you're referencing one of my last couple sentences.

My thought was that in the playoffs, not the regular season so much, Andy has shown that he'll run the ball and burn clock when he has a lead, like he did against TEN in the 2nd half of the 2019 AFCCG.

Like he did last year vs. PIT to start the 2nd half.

Like he did vs. CLE in 2020, once the lead had been established, albeit Mahomes got 'hurt,' late in the game.

And then with BUF also in 2020.

I'm not saying that Andy follows a strict structure of running the piss out of the ball, because at the end of the day I think Andy can't help himself; he's going to throw the ball. But he knows how to salt away a game, knows how to burn clock and still put the team in position to score.

Staley just never got the memo last night.

[DJ's left nut]

The Indy playoff game.

That game is impossible for Indy to come back and win if Reid does nothing more than have his guys run inside draws every play then runs the play clock all the way down before the next snap and plays a straight prevent defense.

Reid botched that game.

[Megatron96]

Also, might as well harp on it again, since I have been since at least last season's AFCCG, it's inexcusable to score just 3 points in the 2nd half of a playoff game (any game really, but in particular). LAC proved that yet again last night. I don't care how big the lead is or how 'great' the defense is, if the offense only manages 3 points in the 2nd half, expect to lose, and that's entirely on the offense.

JAX eked out a W last night because Staley went full-blown poster child "FAAFO," scored just one FG, and so he did.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The Indy playoff game.

That game is impossible for Indy to come back and win if Reid does nothing more than have his guys run inside draws every play then runs the play clock all the way down before the next snap and plays a straight prevent defense.

Reid botched that game.

Yep, and on defense have your dbacks tackle the wide receivers every play.

5 yard penalty, 10-15 seconds off the clock every time.

Chiefs did everything they could to assist Indy in that game.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The Indy playoff game.

That game is impossible for Indy to come back and win if Reid does nothing more than have his guys run inside draws every play then runs the play clock all the way down before the next snap and plays a straight prevent defense.

Reid botched that game.

kay, I figured that was the one. And you're of course correct in every respect. Andy effed that one up. He can brainfart like that. Though I believe with Mahomes he's not as likely to do it. Or maybe it's been EB wanting more runs (though I have no proof that's the case). Either way, I think we've seen Andy much more willing to run the ball, and keep the clock moving over the last 3 or so seasons. In the playoffs, anyway.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Ugh, I hope this doesn't get messy.

I know our guys are human and all, but that dude is irrelevant. We can easily just line up against these guys, play straight up and beat them. No need for all the extra shit that might lead to injuries or suspensions.

I don't expect them to do anything unless they have the game in hand. I am sure there will be some legal hard blocks on him though early on.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The Indy playoff game.

That game is impossible for Indy to come back and win if Reid does nothing more than have his guys run inside draws every play then runs the play clock all the way down before the next snap and plays a straight prevent defense.

Reid botched that game.

Please stop. I'm about ready to curl up in the corner thinking about that ****ing game...

[Chieftain]

The Chiefs have a two-headed monster in the run game with Pacheco–McKinnon and the all time monster at tight end with Kelce.
Jags will have no answer for that.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

The Chiefs have a two-headed monster in the run game with Pacheco–McKinnon and the all time monster at tight end with Kelce.
Jags will have no answer for that.

I keep coming back to the same place.

This Chiefs team is REALLY ****ing good.

Absolutely everything comes down to the front 4. Because if they can generate even an average amount of pressure, it's going to be hard to attack that young secondary and/or exploit the holes underneath that invariably open up in the modern game.

Just be adequate, defensive line. Do that and this team wins a championship and does it without even a ton of trouble. The more I see from the rest of the league, the more convinced I am that the Chiefs are the best team in the league.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I keep coming back to the same place.

This Chiefs team is REALLY ****ing good.

Absolutely everything comes down to the front 4. Because if they can generate even an average amount of pressure, it's going to be hard to attack that young secondary and/or exploit the holes underneath that invariably open up in the modern game.
Just be adequate, defensive line. Do that and this team wins a championship and does it without even a ton of trouble. The more I see from the rest of the league, the more convinced I am that the Chiefs are the best team in the league.

We are a better team than the last 2 years. We play mistake free football we will be tough out.

[Redbled]

Originally Posted by Cdnjagfan14

but don't worry you can't say anything to hurt my feelings i've been a jags fan since inception in 1993.

I was a big Jags fan when they knocked the mighty Broncos out of the playoffs years ago. Thanks for that.

[JagsFan]

Hey, Jags fan here, I come in peace. I have lots of close friends who are Chiefs fans, so this game pains me emotionally.

In all honesty, I think the result of the game is obviously predictable.

I've been perusing this thread, and I don't think I've seen much first quarter talk. That's what fascinates me.

The Chiefs have had some slow starts in their playoffs openers...the Texans game obviously comes to mind.

Do you think Chiefs come into this game just expecting an easy win, and so they start off not taking the Jags seriously?

Do the Jags come down from an emotional high or do they start off the game carrying their momentum from last week?

Obviously, the Chiefs will be the Chiefs whenever they decide to be... it seems like the Jags are very comfortable crashing down on ball-carriers between the tackles, If I'm a Chiefs fan I would hope for some jet sweeps and other type of running plays for wide receivers and Mahomes outside the tackles. I think the Chiefs' best weapon will be Kelce.

Trevor has been shaky these past two weeks, obviously affected by the playoff atmosphere...and those were home games! Do the Chiefs have corners who are comfortable covering shorter routes, the way the Chargers knew to do in the first half?

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by JagsFan

Hey, Jags fan here, I come in peace. I have lots of close friends who are Chiefs fans, so this game pains me emotionally.

In all honesty, I think the result of the game is obviously predictable.

I've been perusing this thread, and I don't think I've seen much first quarter talk. That's what fascinates me.

The Chiefs have had some slow starts in their playoffs openers...the Texans game obviously comes to mind.

Do you think Chiefs come into this game just expecting an easy win, and so they start off not taking the Jags seriously?

Do the Jags come down from an emotional high or do they start off the game carrying their momentum from last week?

Obviously, the Chiefs will be the Chiefs whenever they decide to be... it seems like the Jags are very comfortable crashing down on ball-carriers between the tackles, If I'm a Chiefs fan I would hope for some jet sweeps and other type of running plays for wide receivers and Mahomes outside the tackles. I think the Chiefs' best weapon will be Kelce.

Trevor has been shaky these past two weeks, obviously affected by the playoff atmosphere...and those were home games! Do the Chiefs have corners who are comfortable covering shorter routes, the way the Chargers knew to do in the first half?

Welcome! I like Trevor and Doug. They seem nice.

Hey, do you know Setsuna?