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Old 01-24-2023, 04:40 PM  
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In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times.

Burrow gets the ball out the 2nd fasted in the league. Did he adjust to get the ball out faster to help the line or is the line just playing better. Burrow isn't a guy that is going to extend the play like a Mahomes, so he's not helping keep the sack numbers down like that.

So what is it? Better line play or Burrow is just so fast it's hard to get to him?

If it is because of his quick release, then would us jamming the shit out of the WR help the pass rushers and give them just a big more time? What is the key to getting to Burrow?
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Old 01-25-2023, 11:42 AM   #76
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Sacks don't matter as much against this offense. Burrow was sacked 9 times last year in the divisional round and still won.

You have to get them off the field on 3rd down (whether sacks, PBU's, great tackling) more than they do the same against our offense.

Do that and you win.
They won that game because the Titans couldn't score. Cincinnati had 19 pts in 12 drives. If they score at that rate Sunday, the Chiefs will win handily.
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Old 01-25-2023, 11:47 AM   #77
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The Bengals had four new offensive linemen to start the year, so I'm sure it took time for them to mesh and learn the protections.
Aren't a bunch of them hurt right now ? Didn't seem to matter last week. Maybe the bad field conditions slowed down the Bills pass rush
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Old 01-25-2023, 11:52 AM   #78
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Aren't a bunch of them hurt right now ? Didn't seem to matter last week. Maybe the bad field conditions slowed down the Bills pass rush
Yes, they were missing three of their starters last week. The question in the OP was about why their pass protection improved so much after the first 8 weeks of the season. A possible explanation is that they got better with more experience as a unit.

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In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times.
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Old 01-25-2023, 12:17 PM   #79
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The group that played last week against the Bills is essentially a different offensive line than they played with all year. I think run blocking is their strength, especially compared to their pass blocking. They may not be great, but it's clear to me the Bengals coaching staff played to their strengths last week.
Does that say more about the Bengals or Bills though?

Because the Bengals OL was terrible in all aspects against the Ravens.

Burrow was hit 8 times, sacked 4 times.

Mixon had 11 carries for 39 yards. Perine had 2 carries for 3 yards. Burrow ran 5 times for 9 yards. As a team, they averaged 2.8 yards per carry with a long run of 11 yards (that 11 yard run accounted for 20% of their rushing yards on the day).

The Bengals OL performance against the Bills reminded me a lot of when the Chiefs gashed them with CEH and a line of Fisher, Allegretti, Kilgore, Wylie, and Remmers. That turned out to be absolute fools gold though.

I understand why everyone would want to look at the most recent game, but expanding the sample size tells a different story about the Bengals OL.
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Old 01-25-2023, 12:29 PM   #80
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In a lot of ways, their OL's performance on a slick track (which always favors the line, IMO, as it impacts the DL's get-off) may instill some false confidence in them.

Then again, I thought I read there was a chance they may be getting Williams and Cappa back this weekend.

But yeah - I'll take my chances against that patchwork mess they sent out there against Buffalo. If they think that's the level of performance they're going to get from those guys, I feel like they could be in for a rude awakening.

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Old 01-25-2023, 12:35 PM   #81
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In a lot of ways, their OL's performance on a slick track (which always favors the line, IMO, as it impacts the DL's get-off) may instill some false confidence in them.

Then again, I thought I read there was a chance they may be getting Williams and Cappa back this weekend.

But yeah - I'll take my chances against that patchwork mess they sent out there against Buffalo. If they think that's the level of performance they're going to get from those guys, I feel like they could be in for a rude awakening.

{fingers crossed}
Like we’ve said before, the past performances agains the Bengals OL by our front both rushing the passer and stopping the run have been inexcusable.

They need to make it right this week. It’s a very reasonable task considering the OL they’ll face.
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Old 01-25-2023, 12:48 PM   #82
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Does that say more about the Bengals or Bills though?

Because the Bengals OL was terrible in all aspects against the Ravens.

Burrow was hit 8 times, sacked 4 times.

Mixon had 11 carries for 39 yards. Perine had 2 carries for 3 yards. Burrow ran 5 times for 9 yards. As a team, they averaged 2.8 yards per carry with a long run of 11 yards (that 11 yard run accounted for 20% of their rushing yards on the day).

The Bengals OL performance against the Bills reminded me a lot of when the Chiefs gashed them with CEH and a line of Fisher, Allegretti, Kilgore, Wylie, and Remmers. That turned out to be absolute fools gold though.

I understand why everyone would want to look at the most recent game, but expanding the sample size tells a different story about the Bengals OL.
The Bengals lost RT Collins week 16. They lost RG Cappa week 18. They lost LT Williams in the wildcard round.

If you want to see how the Bengals coaching staff puts together an offensive game plan down those three guys, there's only one game to look at. Against the Bills, they saw success running the ball and with quick throws.

I'm not saying they're an elite run-blocking unit. They're just more comfortable there. The Bills rushed 19 times for 63 yards (3.3 yards/carry) while the Bengals ran for 172 yards on 34 attempts (5.1 yards/carry).
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Old 01-25-2023, 12:50 PM   #83
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Does that say more about the Bengals or Bills though?

Because the Bengals OL was terrible in all aspects against the Ravens.

Burrow was hit 8 times, sacked 4 times.

Mixon had 11 carries for 39 yards. Perine had 2 carries for 3 yards. Burrow ran 5 times for 9 yards. As a team, they averaged 2.8 yards per carry with a long run of 11 yards (that 11 yard run accounted for 20% of their rushing yards on the day).

The Bengals OL performance against the Bills reminded me a lot of when the Chiefs gashed them with CEH and a line of Fisher, Allegretti, Kilgore, Wylie, and Remmers. That turned out to be absolute fools gold though.

I understand why everyone would want to look at the most recent game, but expanding the sample size tells a different story about the Bengals OL.
Yep. To have a QB who gets the ball out fast but still allow 8 hits and 4 sacks is terrible.

Chris Jones needs to feast and get his first sack. 2-3 wouldn’t hurt.
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Man why'd Tyler Huntley have to fumble it on the goal line... would've saved us such a headache.
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Man why'd Tyler Huntley have to fumble it on the goal line... would've saved us such a headache.
Nah. We would have had to play the Bills on a neutral field.

This is EXACTLY what we want - the Chiefs as an underdog at home. They're going to win.
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Nah. We would have had to play the Bills on a neutral field.

This is EXACTLY what we want - the Chiefs as an underdog at home. They're going to win.
Yeah, this couldn't have worked out better for us. AFCCG in Arrowhead with the opportunity to exact our revenge against Home Alone and the Gang.
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We need 3-4 sacks and a lot of pressure on Sunday.

If we get little pressure and no sacks, we are in trouble.
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Nah. We would have had to play the Bills on a neutral field.

This is EXACTLY what we want - the Chiefs as an underdog at home. They're going to win.
I think the Jags beat the Bills if that would have happened...
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Man why'd Tyler Huntley have to fumble it on the goal line... would've saved us such a headache.
Don't be a wuss. It's time to put these dogs down.
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I think the Jags beat the Bills if that would have happened...
Agreed.

That Bills team was simply done. And then they flat embarrassed themselves.
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