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Old 01-31-2023, 06:18 PM  
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3rd/4th and 1 Conversions
A lot was made in Sunday's AFC Championship game about the Chiefs inability to convert in 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1 scenarios. If I remember correctly Romo said the Chiefs are hovering around 50% in conversion percentage in these short yardage situations. The Chiefs are 2nd in the NFL at 48.7% in all 3rd down scenarios which makes it seem bizarre that Mahomes & company are not converting 3rd/4th and short with more regularity.

So I turn to the prolific armchair offensive coordinators of Chiefsplanet to answer these questions:

1. Why do you think the Chiefs struggle in these situations?
2. Any adjustments you would make vs Philly in the Superbowl?
3. Gun to your head, 4th & 1 in the Superbowl, what are you dialing up?
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Old 02-01-2023, 09:55 AM   #31
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Depending on Mahomes ankle, I wonder if they Chiefs go to a speed option look vs the Eagles in 3rd/4th and short situations similar to what they did against the 49ers in the Super Bowl.

If I remember correctly the Chiefs ran speed option to Bosa's side on their first scoring drive on a 3rd/4th and short, with Mahomes optioning it to Damien Williams. Andy Reid typically likes to run at premier pass rushers early in games to give them something else to think about, maybe Reddick gets the same treatment.
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Old 02-01-2023, 10:32 AM   #32
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Don't we still have a FB, Burton, on the roster? What other purpose does a FB serve but to block for the RB?
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Old 02-01-2023, 10:35 AM   #33
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we’ve tried that and it never works
The Bell sneaks are just setting up Bell tossing it to Mahomes who throws it to a wide open Jody Fortson for the TD
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Old 02-01-2023, 10:53 AM   #34
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I sort of cringe when we get first and goal inside the 10 its like...hey man can you put it between the 10 and the 20 yard line for me I really like that zone.

Where is Priest Holmes when you need him?
I think we could bring back Marcus Allen now, and he'd do better than our current 3rd/4th and 1 offense.

It makes me wonder if the Chiefs could hire a Marty clone just to coach the 3rd/4th and 1 or less offense. Bring in Henne so the QB sneak is an actual threat. Actually use the fullback as a blocker and not as an alternate RB. And every now and then throw it to keep them honest.
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Old 02-01-2023, 11:02 AM   #35
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The problem is Pacheco seldom seems to be on the field on 3rd and 1. Mckinnon typically gets the nod. I've been yelling for Pacheco more on short yardage.
Why not have both out there in a personnel package with 2 RB with Jet doing a chip block and the receiver option and Pacheco as the rusher option
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Lots of good points in this thread and I brought up the QB sneak in DenverChiefs thread last week.

Mahomes injury sustained earlier in his career has pretty much kept Andy from running the play.

But, but harumph, nobody has mentioned the loss of the Shermanator! This team misses number 42 Anthony Sherman! Michael Burton, so far, just is not the same.
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The Bell sneaks are just setting up Bell tossing it to Mahomes who throws it to a wide open Jody Fortson for the TD
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A lot was made in Sunday's AFC Championship game about the Chiefs inability to convert in 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1 scenarios. If I remember correctly Romo said the Chiefs are hovering around 50% in conversion percentage in these short yardage situations. The Chiefs are 2nd in the NFL at 48.7% in all 3rd down scenarios which makes it seem bizarre that Mahomes & company are not converting 3rd/4th and short with more regularity.

So I turn to the prolific armchair offensive coordinators of Chiefsplanet to answer these questions:

1. Why do you think the Chiefs struggle in these situations?
2. Any adjustments you would make vs Philly in the Superbowl?
3. Gun to your head, 4th & 1 in the Superbowl, what are you dialing up?
Its so freaking simple. Teams do not have to scheme defensively for a QB sneak. Makes you much much easier to defend. In fact, Andy ran a 3rd and 10 play on 4th in 1 on that Kelce TD last game...which was kind of genius if you are DUMB enoughto never QB sneak. But we MUST start QB sneaking again. This is the time to do it because they wont even see it coming.
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If we don't wanna use Mahomes to sneak, fine. Use Blake Bell. He's good at the sneak. He did it a lot at OU.
No. You ****ing use Mahomes. When you put in Bell and then he shuffles into behind the center you have already lost any element of surprise and any ability to pass the ball.

Its so ****ing simple to solve. You QB sneak eith Mahomes...which is the safest play in football.
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Its so freaking simple. Teams do not have to scheme defensively for a QB sneak. Makes you much much easier to defend. In fact, Andy ran a 3rd and 10 play on 4th in 1 on that Kelce TD last game...which was kind of genius if you are DUMB enoughto never QB sneak. But we MUST start QB sneaking again. This is the time to do it because they wont even see it coming.
Up until this ankle deal, I totally agree. It's silly to never run a sneak ever again just because of a freak accident(knee). But with his ankle ...idk
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Yes, lets qb sneak our one ankled qb....
If its a 20 vs 20 game in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl

You ****in do it
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The Eagles will use the QB sneak on every short play. They know it works, they use it religiously.
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The Chiefs are 2nd in the league on 3rd and 2 or longer and 27th in the league at 3rd and 1 or less.

Surprised they aren't dead last
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