Chiefs Go for two after Skyy TD?

Prison Bitch · 02-13-2023, 03:00 PM

Moore scores 9:22 left to put us up 7 (34-27). Do you go for two?

Pro:

-you’re up two scores if you convert. Philly needs two possessions to even have a chance. The way we controlled the ball that might be difficult
-if you don’t convert and Philly scores, it would take balls of steel for Sirianni to go for the win so you’re unharmed. Esp with their likely being plenty of clock for Patrick. Odds they kill 9min are slim

Con:

-If you don’t convert he actually *might* show those balls and we can’t stop Hurts running
-even if you do, you might entice them into an onsides kick with plenty of time (4min?)

Net: I’d do this more often if I’m a coach but Philly might be the exception

**DaFace** · 02-13-2023, 03:01 PM

I thought the same thing. I would have gone for 2. I'd love to see some stats on the probabilities, though.

**Easy 6** · 02-13-2023, 03:03 PM

We won, theres no need to rethink it

**Indian Chief** · 02-13-2023, 03:03 PM

I understand the thought process, but you kick the XP to go up 8. It's a relative gimme and you then force them to go for 2 if they score. If you don't convert, you take pressure off of them.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 02-13-2023, 03:05 PM

You go up 8, Sirianni most likely goes for two if they score anyway.

Prison Bitch · 02-13-2023, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

You go up 8, Sirianni most likely goes for two if they score anyway.

But would he? If he doesn’t make it, he’s roasted everywhere

dlphg9 · 02-13-2023, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

You go up 8, Sirianni most likely goes for two if they score anyway.

I don't think so. Why would he? It wasn't the end of the game or to seal a win.

O.city · 02-13-2023, 03:11 PM

Absolutely go for 2.

A play from the 2 yard line to make it a 2 score game in the fourth quarter is always a go.

You give yourself a chance to essentially keep them from ever having the ball with a chance to tie you.

TwistedChief · 02-13-2023, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Absolutely go for 2.

A play from the 2 yard line to make it a 2 score game in the fourth quarter is always a go.

You give yourself a chance to essentially keep them from ever having the ball with a chance to tie you.

Counterpoint: the Chiefs are poor in short yardage situations, though less so last night.

Second counterpoint: while you give yourself the chance to keep them from having the ball again with a chance to tie you, you also open yourself up to the possibility of getting the ball back with a 1 point deficit.

I was happy they didn’t go for 2. I felt great on that Eagles drive that the absolute worst case scenario is we’d get the ball back tied with Mahomes having an opportunity to do what he usually does.

SupDock · 02-13-2023, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Counterpoint: the Chiefs are poor in short yardage situations, though less so last night.

Second counterpoint: while you give yourself the chance to keep them from having the ball again with a chance to tie you, you also open yourself up to the possibility of getting the ball back with a 1 point deficit.

I was happy they didn’t go for 2. I felt great on that Eagles drive that the absolute worst case scenario is we’d get the ball back tied with Mahomes having an opportunity to do what he usually does.

Yep. At worst we get the ball tied.

O.city · 02-13-2023, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Counterpoint: the Chiefs are poor in short yardage situations, though less so last night.

Second counterpoint: while you give yourself the chance to keep them from having the ball again with a chance to tie you, you also open yourself up to the possibility of getting the ball back with a 1 point deficit.

I was happy they didn’t go for 2. I felt great on that Eagles drive that the absolute worst case scenario is we’d get the ball back tied with Mahomes having an opportunity to do what he usually does.

Would they go for 2 in that situation only down 7?

BWillie · 02-13-2023, 03:30 PM

Yes. You are freerolling

tmax63 · 02-13-2023, 03:30 PM

Worst case scenario. 8 point lead guarantees at least a tie and OT. It also forces them to go for 2 and it's definitely not a given they make it so still good shot at a regulation win. Going for 2 and missing opens the door for a win in regulation for them. They made the right choice.

TwistedChief · 02-13-2023, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Would they go for 2 in that situation only down 7?

It would certainly stand to reason that an Eagles team whose strength is running the ball who confidently runs it on 3rd and 8 and goes for it regularly on 4th and short would’ve gone for 2 in an attempt to get the lead and put the dagger in us.

mr. tegu · 02-13-2023, 03:46 PM

Against that team you take the point. All night long I was convinced they would get aggressive with a two point attempt and do the rugby play that can’t be stopped.

Remember, they did the rugby play for a TD from about the 2.5 or 3 yard line on a first down precisely because I think they wanted to see if it would work on a two point attempt. Otherwise no need for it there on a first down when they could have tried any number of running plays.

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02-13-2023, 03:01 PM	#2
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mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $-1708700	Go for two after Skyy TD? Against that team you take the point. All night long I was convinced they would get aggressive with a two point attempt and do the rugby play that can’t be stopped. Remember, they did the rugby play for a TD from about the 2.5 or 3 yard line on a first down precisely because I think they wanted to see if it would work on a two point attempt. Otherwise no need for it there on a first down when they could have tried any number of running plays.
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