Chiefs Nate Taylor: Chiefs expected to franchise OBJ again [not happening] - Page 31

**The Franchise** · 02:01 PM

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Brown is technically the Chiefs’ top free agent, though for the second consecutive year, he might never reach the open market. Similar to last year, the Chiefs are expected to place the franchise tag on Brown, which will prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. Such a move will allow both parties more time to negotiate a lucrative contract extension. If the parties cannot agree to a deal by the middle of July, Brown would once again be restricted to a one-year salary of $18.4 million, according to Over The Cap.

https://theathletic.com/4161606/2023...3&redirected=1

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The Athletic's Nate Taylor writes the Chiefs are "expected" to place the franchise tag on LT Orlando Brown again.

Brown played on the tag last year, briefly threatening to not report to camp before showing up on time. Since coming over for the Ravens in a trade, Brown has been stellar if not exceptional, and would probably profile as one of the five best free agents on the market if he got there. Taylor also writes that Brown turned down a six-year, $139 million deal with a $30.25 million signing bonus last offseason.

Not really new news...but he won't be hitting the open market at least.

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

In a surprise twist, the Chiefs will not be franchise tagging left tackle Orlando Brown, per source. He’s set to be a free agent March 13. The player has been notified.
— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 6, 2023

O.city · 02-21-2023, 11:10 AM

2 1's and a 2nd for a non QB isn't worth it.

htismaqe · 02-21-2023, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

You're missing the whole "trade OBJ for picks thing" willingly maybe lol?

We move him for a 2nd (maybe Chicago's) and package that with ours. Those moves give us roughly 640 points as 276+360.

That, plus our own 600 points adds up to 1240-which puts us right outside the top 10.

See, not that hard. There's our replacement LT....provided we find one we like.

Yeah, it's so simple to find a trade partner and then gift them multiple 1's and 2's.

mkp785 · 02-21-2023, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Thats insane. No chance they'd trade that for a LT.

Well according to you guys, he's worth 140 guaranteed million. Cause that's what he's gonna want.

milkshock · 02-21-2023, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

2 1's and a 2nd for a non QB isn't worth it.

2 1's???

theres being fleeced, and then there is just being ridiculous. maybe for your own narrative, but please.

The trade will be 1st rounder for the following year, at worst.

Sassy Squatch · 02-21-2023, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock

if its 2 you'd want Sneed and Jones

It's not even a discussion. As nice as Gay and Bolton are they're off ball LBs and both have some significant nicks in their game.

**The Franchise** · 02-21-2023, 11:11 AM

First off....why the **** are we worried about Jones? He's still under contract for another year. The only reason you're extending him this offseason is to lower his cap hit and have the money to sign guys. You could leave it alone and be just fine.

2024 - Yeah, you would have to make a decision on Gay, Sneed and Jones but you're also going to be gaining cap space because guys like MVS aren't going to be here. You could cut him and get $12 million in cap space. Before that we're already looking at $111 million in cap space. Obviously that's going to be lower with guys brought in this offseason but Veach has shown that he's going younger. It won't be a ton of huge contracts.

2025 - This is the year you've got Bolton coming up for a new deal. Guess who is probably gone? Thuney. That's $16 million in cap savings. Kelce will also be 36 and probably be looking to hang it up.

Holy ****. Stop acting like OBJ is suddenly going to **** up the Chiefs cap situation and make it so you can't sign ANYONE.

**The Franchise** · 02-21-2023, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

You're missing the whole "trade OBJ for picks thing" willingly maybe lol?

We move him for a 2nd (maybe Chicago's) and package that with ours. Those moves give us roughly 640 points as 276+360.

That, plus our own 600 points adds up to 1240-which puts us right outside the top 10.

See, not that hard. There's our replacement LT....provided we find one we like.

See...that's not hard. We only just spent 4 ****ing draft picks to MAYBE get a LT who is better than OBJ.

htismaqe · 02-21-2023, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock

2 1's???

Yeah, this year's first and next year's first are the starting point for any trade.

You're not getting from 31 to 13, or anywhere even close, without two 1st round picks involved.

RunKC · 02-21-2023, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They aren't signing all of Sneed, Bolton, Jones and Gay.

2 of those guys maybe, not all 4.

Well if they are able to pull of trading Orlando Brown Jr and replacing him with a decent rookie tackle then they would have a shit load of money to use

tredadda · 02-21-2023, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

If OBJ played like he did from September-November than a rookie (Paris Johnson/ Anton Harrison) could absolutely step right in and out do that rubbish. If we're talking about playoff OBJ, sure that's hard to out do. But remember, we changed up the scheme some and it looked to me that we gave him alot of help with chips to make life easier. The super bowl he was lights out so I'll admit that

Are you ready to gamble a massive, massive guaranteed contract that Super Bowl OBJ is the one we're getting for the next 5 years?

Where are they currently being projected in the draft?

htismaqe · 02-21-2023, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

Well according to you guys, he's worth 140 guaranteed million. Cause that's what he's gonna want.

Yeah, you're completely wrong and mischaracterizing what has been said.

Nobody has said he's worth $140M. That's something you completely made up because you're 100% emotionally invested in them getting rid of him.

At any cost even.

tredadda · 02-21-2023, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Why are we acting like Niang won't be pencilled in to start at one of the two T positions?

Wylie.

Megatron96 · 02-21-2023, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

My point was more to the fact that the Chiefs aren't going to be afraid to replace a couple tackles, if need be, in one off-season, when they just recently replaced nearly the whole damn O-Line two years ago.

Veach will do what he needs to do, with Andy's approval no doubt. But it will be what is in the best interests of the team and cap situation going forward. The Chiefs are not 'playing scared' in this situation.

Okay.

But we aren't trading away both OTs either. You guys seem to think top-15 OTs can be found at any participating Wal-mart or something.

Unless trading those two results in KC landing Trent Williams, that ain't going to happen. Veach and Andy aren't dumb enough to put themselves in the position where they have to find two new OTs in one offseason.

milkshock · 02-21-2023, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yeah, this year's first and next year's first are the starting point for any trade.

You're not getting from 31 to 13, or anywhere even close, without two 1st round picks involved.

Oh wow, so we lose next years no 31. big ****ing deal. to save us from paying fatty Trent Williams money, I'm fine with that.

raybec 4 · 02-21-2023, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Far less? Where are you getting that?

All reports suggest that they were closer on terms but couldn't agree on the guaranteed money.

That's all I've heard too. The actual guaranteed part of the contract was the hold up. People make it sound like they negotiated for an entire offseason and never got close. That's just not what I understood to be true.

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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	First off....why the ** are we worried about Jones? He's still under contract for another year. The only reason you're extending him this offseason is to lower his cap hit and have the money to sign guys. You could leave it alone and be just fine. 2024 - Yeah, you would have to make a decision on Gay, Sneed and Jones but you're also going to be gaining cap space because guys like MVS aren't going to be here. You could cut him and get $12 million in cap space. Before that we're already looking at $111 million in cap space. Obviously that's going to be lower with guys brought in this offseason but Veach has shown that he's going younger. It won't be a ton of huge contracts. 2025 - This is the year you've got Bolton coming up for a new deal. Guess who is probably gone? Thuney. That's $16 million in cap savings. Kelce will also be 36 and probably be looking to hang it up. Holy . Stop acting like OBJ is suddenly going to ** up the Chiefs cap situation and make it so you can't sign ANYONE.
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