Nate Taylor: Chiefs expected to franchise OBJ again [not happening]

[The Franchise]

Brown is technically the Chiefs’ top free agent, though for the second consecutive year, he might never reach the open market. Similar to last year, the Chiefs are expected to place the franchise tag on Brown, which will prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. Such a move will allow both parties more time to negotiate a lucrative contract extension. If the parties cannot agree to a deal by the middle of July, Brown would once again be restricted to a one-year salary of $18.4 million, according to Over The Cap.

https://theathletic.com/4161606/2023...3&redirected=1

The Athletic's Nate Taylor writes the Chiefs are "expected" to place the franchise tag on LT Orlando Brown again.

Brown played on the tag last year, briefly threatening to not report to camp before showing up on time. Since coming over for the Ravens in a trade, Brown has been stellar if not exceptional, and would probably profile as one of the five best free agents on the market if he got there. Taylor also writes that Brown turned down a six-year, $139 million deal with a $30.25 million signing bonus last offseason.

Not really new news...but he won't be hitting the open market at least.

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

In a surprise twist, the Chiefs will not be franchise tagging left tackle Orlando Brown, per source. He’s set to be a free agent March 13. The player has been notified.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 6, 2023

[smithandrew051]

500 year, $500 million contract, fully guaranteed

[Oxford]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Sorensen and Hughes.

Sneed had a rough day as well.

Thornhill really wasn't the problem in that game. Thornhill never continued on the same course he appeared to be on as a rookie where he looked like a possible top 10(ish) safety and real premier robber. But after he got his mind right, he was never worse than a plus player; a good safety.

Once you start trying to cover someone else's responsibility (especially in Spag's system), its a dumpster fire. I think the whole lot of them had a bad day.

But, at this point its replaceability, young pick on a rookie deal to let you use your dollars somewhere else... you bet they'll be on that. If someone is just chasing Benjamins let them go

[Oxford]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

No, actually, it's because Veach isn't dumb enough to let himself get cornered without a viable option if Brown Jr and his agent are still demanding full guarantees, especially after they've already threatened a holdout prior. If that's the case we'll be drafting an early round OT prospect to hedge against that.

And if we're near the draft and they still haven't agreed to terms, that might be when Veach pivots and starts taking trade calls on him.

He's already taking trade calls on the whole roster

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Any chance Chenal is a replacement for one of Gay or Bolton?

From the moment I saw Chenal start getting substantial playing time I thought Gay was gone.

Sucks, but those are the types of moves you have to make to stay on top.

I think - through no fault of their own - Gay and Thornhill are both gone.

[kccrow]

I highly doubt Gay is getting a second contract here.
Bolton might.
Sneed should.
Creed should.
Thornhill isn't.

[ChiefaRoo]

Bolton is the best tackler on the whole team.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I highly doubt Gay is getting a second contract here.
Bolton might.
Sneed should.
Creed should.
Thornhill isn't.

I’m thinking Sneed, Bolton and Creed are locks.

Gay, Smith, Danna and Gray will not be here on their 2nd contracts.

Although I’d really like to see Saunders brought back bc he has 1st rd size/strength/speed and is just starting to really break out. Depends on cost though.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I’m thinking Sneed, Bolton and Creed are locks.

Gay, Smith, Danna and Gray will not be here on their 2nd contracts.

Although I’d really like to see Saunders brought back bc he has 1st rd size/strength/speed and is just starting to really break out. Depends on cost though.

We're going to have to disagree on Saunders. While I'd like to see him back on a vet min deal, he's not very good. Maybe he can show more progress with another season and if he does you lock him in for a few years. I wouldn't give him more than a vet min offer though. Kicketh the rocks if it isn't enough.

[Mecca]

You all really are overestimating what Willie Gay is gonna get paid on the market....

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

We're going to have to disagree on Saunders. While I'd like to see him back on a vet min deal, he's not very good. Maybe he can show more progress with another season and if he does you lock him in for a few years. I wouldn't give him more than a vet min offer though. Kicketh the rocks if it isn't enough.

Yeah I'm in the same boat on Saunders. Not unheard of to see an athletic DT have it "click" later on but i wouldn't bank on it. I think people get caught up on his speed and miss that he may be quick and strong but he frequently gets too high too quickly and walked back horribly.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You all really are overestimating what Willie Gay is gonna get paid on the market....

If anybody is going to get sniped off of this defense, it's Bolton. On the open market, he'd get a lot more money than Gay, IMO.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If anybody is going to get sniped off of this defense, it's Bolton. On the open market, he'd get a lot more money than Gay, IMO.

If someone hit me with the Bolton could get an avg per year offer between Oluokun and Mosely which is 15-17 per with 28-43 guaranteed, I think that could happen.

Gay won't come anywhere near that, he won't get the 10.3 average Milano has..gay is like a 7.5-8.5 avg with a lower guarantee like maybe 10. Gay hasn't been nearly as consistent so yea.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by kccrow

We're going to have to disagree on Saunders. While I'd like to see him back on a vet min deal, he's not very good. Maybe he can show more progress with another season and if he does you lock him in for a few years. I wouldn't give him more than a vet min offer though. Kicketh the rocks if it isn't enough.

Um, this is our list of DTs;

Chris Jones
Khalen Saunders
Brandon Williams
Derrick Nnadi
Danny Shelton
Tershawn Wharton

Are you seriously telling us that Khalen isn't better than every DT we have not named Chris Jones? Never mind that; he is actually the 2nd best DT on the team, there's no argument there to be had.

Brandon was on a one year contract, I think, so who knows what happens with him.

Danny, well, let's just say I'd be shocked if he came back.

Wharton? Not even sure how he's still on the team.

Nnadi's play kind of fell off a cliff in 2022. Not sure he has much left in the tank at this point.

I think Khalen actually had a mini-breakout season in 2022. Enough that I think he's coming back, and most of those other guys get scrapped for new blood in 2023.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Um, this is our list of DTs;

Chris Jones
Khalen Saunders
Brandon Williams
Derrick Nnadi
Danny Shelton
Tershawn Wharton

Are you seriously telling us that Khalen isn't better than every DT we have not named Chris Jones? Never mind that; he is actually the 2nd best DT on the team, there's no argument there to be had.

Brandon was on a one year contract, I think, so who knows what happens with him.

Danny, well, let's just say I'd be shocked if he came back.

Wharton? Not even sure how he's still on the team.

Nnadi's play kind of fell off a cliff in 2022. Not sure he has much left in the tank at this point.

I think Khalen actually had a mini-breakout season in 2022. Enough that I think he's coming back, and most of those other guys get scrapped for new blood in 2023.

Just one point of clarification:

Nnadi actually fell off middle of last year. Somebody charted his run stops over the summer and he was like near the bottom of the league.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just one point of clarification:

Nnadi actually fell off middle of last year. Somebody charted his run stops over the summer and he was like near the bottom of the league.

Right. Forgot about that. Bottom line, Nnadi hasn't been himself for some time now, for whatever reason.