Will Hunt & Veach try to make a splash at the draft? If so, what?

[Dante84]

I was thinking about this the other day: Brett joked about how Clark didn't let him use future resources last year because he wanted a first when we were hosting the draft.

Probably mostly in jest, but also probably a bit of truth as well.

So, we are set to have a huge ass party, in KC, at the same spot we had a Super Bowl parade just 2 months prior. The world will be zoomed in on KC.

Do we stay the normal course with our process (probably yes), or does Hunt want to get freaky with it? You know Brett is aggressive as ****, so if Clark gives him the greenlight.... what would that look like?

What's a crazy, dick-flop on the table type of move, if we were to make one?

[Dante84]

The argument FOR:
- Andy has a handful of years left, so let's make the most of it.
- We checked a lot of boxes last year with hits on many draft picks
- We don't have a high number of holes on the roster
- We do have some starter-holes at key position groups, like OT, WR, DE, and the studs all go well before we pick.
- A high-first round pick has a long runway before he needs to be paid, so cap implications are low.
- It would be fun to have another elite-ceiling player on the roster, be it a weapon for Mahomes, a game-wrecker on defense, or a lock-down OT.


The argument AGAINST:
- With our hit rate being high, we should get Veach as many at bats as possible.
- Don't **** with what's not broken - stay the course, draft location be damned.
- There's a ton of value at the end of the first.

[Direckshun]

I think the easy money says he's going to go get a WR who will boss it up with Mahomes.

I think there's a very real chance they do it for a tackle, though.

What the Chiefs do in the first round will tell you exactly what they think of their odds to sign Brown long-term.

If they feel hopeless about it, and honestly that wouldn't surprise me, then they really have no choice but to go out and be hyperaggressive and make sure they get the LT position properly insured for 2024, or even for 2023 if Brown is communicating he won't play on the tag again.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think the easy money says he's going to go get a WR who will boss it up with Mahomes.

I think there's a very real chance they do it for a tackle, though.

What the Chiefs do in the first round will tell you exactly what they think of their odds to sign Brown long-term.

If they feel hopeless about it, and honestly that wouldn't surprise me, then they really have no choice but to go out and be hyperaggressive and make sure they get the LT position properly insured for 2024, or even for 2023 if Brown is communicating he won't play on the tag again.

I'd love a big splash at WR, but there's nothing in the air that says they can come to a deal with Brown long term. They probably have to plan for that.

[O.city]

You can't go into the draft this year without knowing how the Brown situation is gonna play out.

[Toad]

They will one way or the other.
Tag period opened 2/21 and closes 3/7.

[Stryker]

Yes, they are Super Bowl Champions and this is in OUR house!

Trade Clark, Trade CEH, Trade Hardman, cut Thronhill, let JuJu walk - get as MUCH draft capitol as you possibly can. Sneed if need be. Move up in the draft to get Kincaid. Trade for Lazard. Get McKinnon back and you already have Pacheco. The offense would be, MVS, Lazard, Moore, Toney, Kelce, Kincaid, McKinnon, Pacheco and Watson. Holy SHIT!

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Yes, they are Super Bowl Champions and this is in OUR house!

Trade Clark, Trade CEH, Trade Hardman, cut Thronhill, let JuJu walk - get as MUCH draft capitol as you possibly can. Sneed if need be. Move up in the draft to get Kincaid. Trade for Lazard. Get McKinnon back and you already have Pacheco. The offense would be, MVS, Lazard, Moore, Toney, Kelce, Kincaid, McKinnon, Pacheco and Watson. Holy SHIT!

There are so many things wrong with this post that I don’t know where to start.

[kozzman555]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Yes, they are Super Bowl Champions and this is in OUR house!

Trade Clark, Trade CEH, Trade Hardman, cut Thronhill, let JuJu walk - get as MUCH draft capitol as you possibly can. Sneed if need be. Move up in the draft to get Kincaid. Trade for Lazard. Get McKinnon back and you already have Pacheco. The offense would be, MVS, Lazard, Moore, Toney, Kelce, Kincaid, McKinnon, Pacheco and Watson. Holy SHIT!

Why the **** would we spend draft pics on Allen Lazard who had a HoF QB throwing to him and only ever managed to be slightly above average? Who is going to give us a pick for CEH? Why would we move up in the draft to get Kincaid when we still have prime Kelce and have needs at OT/WR/DE/and even DL? Why are you including Toney when he won't play at least half the season due to injuries?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Yes, they are Super Bowl Champions and this is in OUR house!

Trade Clark, Trade CEH, Trade Hardman, cut Thronhill, let JuJu walk - get as MUCH draft capitol as you possibly can. Sneed if need be. Move up in the draft to get Kincaid. Trade for Lazard. Get McKinnon back and you already have Pacheco. The offense would be, MVS, Lazard, Moore, Toney, Kelce, Kincaid, McKinnon, Pacheco and Watson. Holy SHIT!

Trade Clark - Probably not a thing that will happen. I don't see a team wanting that.

Trade CEH - Entirely possible he has value to someone with a year left on a rookie deal and the 5th year option... but it wouldn't be much with a pretty talented rookie class of RBs.

Trade Hardman - He's a free agent.

Cut Thornhill - He's a free agent.

Sneed if need be - Need be what? Trade him? Terrible idea.

Trade for Lazard - He's a free agent. Even signing him is not much of an idea to me. He's not all that great.

Trade up for Kincaid - He's probably there at 31. One, why trade up? Two, what the **** is the point of not only burning a 1st on a TE but trading up for one when we have Kelce?

This is just bad man, all the way bad.

[Couch-Potato]

There'd be nothing more exciting than trading up for a WR.

If we trade up it will be to replace or avoid a big contract IMO. OBJ, JuJu, and Sneed have all earned big upcoming contracts, Clark is already being paid a contract above his production level, and I don't think MVS can live up to the $14m his owed if we keep him after next year.

Only Mahomes, Kelce, and Jones are untouchable.

[kccrow]

I don't know if I see a dick-flopping move to be made that involves just moving up in the draft. I guess, I foresee the great differentiators at ER being gone.

I just don't see the Chiefs giving up #31, a 2024 1st, and a 3rd to get into the top 12 just for whatever. That's a crazy amount to pay unless you absolutely need a guy at QB, LT, or ER. Maybe you do that next year if you can't reach a deal with OBj long-term and a developmental guy doesn't work out.

The Chiefs' only trade pieces also would create enormous holes for this team and those are Chris Jones and Orlando Brown. It's not thrilling to take hold of the idea of losing Jones, regardless of the payout. I'm on board with moving Brown but that move has to put you in a position to pick in the top 15 too, and I feel like that pick needs to be a 1st and not a 2nd. Maybe you settle for Pittsburgh's pick at #17.

Altogether, I see the Chiefs extending Jones and at least playing OBj on the tag again. If they feel good about the D-Line situation, I could see them making a move up with Minnesota to 23 for a WR like Hyatt or JSN. I think that'd be the extent of a dick-flop. Give Mahomes another electric weapon to work with in the passing game and it'll only cost a 3rd.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

There'd be nothing more exciting than trading up for a WR.

If we trade up it will be to replace or avoid a big contract IMO. OBJ, JuJu, and Sneed have all earned big upcoming contracts, Clark is already being paid a contract above his production level, and I don't think MVS can live up to the $14m his owed if we keep him after next year.

Only Mahomes, Kelce, and Jones are untouchable.

I really don't think Jones is untouchable. If Detroit called and offered me #6 and #18, I'd take it. Seems ridiculous, but it could set KC up really well at LT and WR for the next 5 years at those spots and there are solid DTs in FA this year to make up for some of the loss. I mean, that's alot for any one team to give up. There's other scenarios I'd think hard about too that involve a high 1st and 2nd.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I really don't think Jones is untouchable. If Detroit called and offered me #6 and #18, I'd take it. Seems ridiculous, but it could set KC up really well at LT and WR for the next 5 years at those spots and there are solid DTs in FA this year to make up for some of the loss. I mean, that's alot for any one team to give up. There's other scenarios I'd think hard about too that involve a high 1st and 2nd.

I think you'd have to consider it for 6 and 48, too. That's high compensation.

If you're getting into that range, you're not quite high enough to land Carter or Anderson unless one of them inexplicably falls.

It IS high enough to land Paris Johnson, Jr, though.

And if you're landing Paris Johnson, shoot... isn't the smart move to tag and trade Orlando Brown for what you can get this year?

[O.city]

I'm not sure Paris is a slam dunk LT is he?