Possibility of trading L’Jarius Sneed

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by kccrow

It's a difficult thing to follow through with.

Let's say you do that on both sides of the ball and these are the approximate values of "high paid"...
QB at 45m
TE at 15m
LT at 25m.
DT at 30m
CB at 18m
LB at 18m.

That's 151m of 224m in cap space, leaving 73m to field a team with a remaining 47 spots which is 1.55m per guy. That's not much room for even low-end or mid-tier guys and you definitely don't want that. You want to have a pretty balanced roster that at least has 5-6 mid-tier talents on each side of the ball.

So of that group above, you're definitely keeping the QB but what are you choosing not to pay? In you're case you don't have an elite TE and you don't have a top-tier LT because you probably have to free up 50m to have a team of about 25 min/rookie tier, 10-12 low-tier (2-4m) and 10 mid-tier (5-10m), and a few elites. Each elite pushes a couple of mid-tier guys down into the min range.

Great points.

I would counter with asking how much of that per year money would be evened/leveled out through GM cap wizardry, and how far we can afford to kick the can down the road that way if we were to choose to do so....

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Great points.

I would counter with asking how much of that per year money would be evened/leveled out through GM cap wizardry, and how far we can afford to kick the can down the road that way if we were to choose to do so....

We're already doing it, to some extent.

You have:
Mahomes - 49.2m
Clark - 28.7m
Jones - 28.3m
Thuney - 22.1m
Kelce - 14.8m
Reid - 12.7m
MVS - 11.0m

What are we going to have to do this year? Probably cut or significantly reduce Clark's hit and move money on Mahomes contract if we want to add OBj back into the mix and his first year will likely be at least 15.0m

When OBj's number goes up next year as well as Mahomes, you got Clark coming off entirely but you're still at 7 players at the threshold if Jones does get extended. That might mean you have to let Thuney go and most likely means MVS needs to come off the books.

These ideas that the Chiefs can just go and trade for a DHop and so on is what make me think it's difficult to manage. Yeah, you can make it work this year with some wizardry. Next year gets a bit more difficult because you don't want to keep kicking the Mahomes' can if you can avoid it.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by kccrow

We're already doing it, to some extent.

You have:
Mahomes - 49.2m
Clark - 28.7m
Jones - 28.3m
Thuney - 22.1m
Kelce - 14.8m
Reid - 12.7m
MVS - 11.0m

What are we going to have to do this year? Probably cut or significantly reduce Clark's hit and move money on Mahomes contract if we want to add OBj back into the mix and his first year will likely be at least 15.0m

When OBj's number goes up next year as well as Mahomes, you got Clark coming off entirely but you're still at 7 players at the threshold if Jones does get extended. That might mean you have to let Thuney go and most likely means MVS needs to come off the books.

These ideas that the Chiefs can just go and trade for a DHop and so on is what make me think it's difficult to manage. Yeah, you can make it work this year with some wizardry. Next year gets a bit more difficult because you don't want to keep kicking the Mahomes' can if you can avoid it.

It's not going to take long to know the plan. Maybe not all, but at least a significant part of the plan. The end date for taggging OBJ is March 7th. By March 15th, teams are required to be under the salary cap. So an interesteing week to week and a half coming up.

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Mahomes - 49.2m
Clark - 28.7m
Jones - 28.3m
Thuney - 22.1m
Kelce - 14.8m
Reid - 12.7m
MVS - 11.0m

Man, seems like we could (should!) come up with less expensive replacements for Clark, Thuney and Brown. Everyone else on that list looks reasonable (to me).

Obviously, Brown is a free agent. How quickly can we get out from under Clark and Thuney's contracts?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Man, seems like we could (should!) come up with less expensive replacements for Clark, Thuney and Brown. Everyone else on that list looks reasonable (to me).

Obviously, Brown is a free agent. How quickly can we get out from under Clark and Thuney's contracts?

Clark will not be here at that price, and to be fair to Thuney he played the last 2 years at low numbers and he's arguably the best guard in the league.

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Clark will not be here at that price, and to be fair to Thuney he played the last 2 years at low numbers and he's arguably the best guard in the league.

With regard to Thuney it isn't a question of talent for me- he's indisputably great. I just wouldn't allocate the money to an offensive guard. I would prefer to spend money on other, more impactful, positions like QB, DE, LT, WR and the anamoly that is Chris Jones.

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Man, seems like we could (should!) come up with less expensive replacements for Clark, Thuney and Brown. Everyone else on that list looks reasonable (to me).

Obviously, Brown is a free agent. How quickly can we get out from under Clark and Thuney's contracts?

Thuney has played great. Again, all of this stress can be solved by getting rid of the weak link on the line (I'm not counting Wylie)...he's the worst out of our OL guys and he wants by far the most money. Orlando needs to take his desire for a 25M deal to another team.

This OBJ thing is an easy choice IMO.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by mkp785

Thuney has played great. Again, all of this stress can be solved by getting rid of the weak link on the line (I'm not counting Wylie)...he's the worst out of our OL guys and he wants by far the most money. Orlando needs to take his desire for a 25M deal to another team.

This OBJ thing is an easy choice IMO.

Every indication is that the Chiefs don't feel this way at all. OBJ will, in all likelihood, be back.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by mkp785

Thuney has played great. Again, all of this stress can be solved by getting rid of the weak link on the line (I'm not counting Wylie)...he's the worst out of our OL guys and he wants by far the most money. Orlando needs to take his desire for a 25M deal to another team.

This OBJ thing is an easy choice IMO.

I just don't think the team agrees that he's not worth it. They genuinely seem to want to keep him.

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Every indication is that the Chiefs don't feel this way at all. OBJ will, in all likelihood, be back.

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I just don't think the team agrees that he's not worth it. They genuinely seem to want to keep him.

I'm sure they want to keep him. I want to keep him. I don't want to do it at the cost of Snead/Jones/Creed/Smith....he's not worth all of that. I guess we'll see if Veach agrees with me, as I don't think OBJ is playing on the tag OR coming down off his desired price tag.