Possibility of trading L’Jarius Sneed - Page 4

RunKC · 02-27-2023, 01:52 PM

As we know, crow successfully called the Tyreek trade last year before it happened with a good thread discussion.

This year I think our most likely trade piece could be L’Jarius Sneed. To preface this, I would like to keep him at a fair deal. However, bidness is bidness sometimes. Let’s examine the cases.

Case for trading:

1. He could ask for too much. He has never made the pro bowl or all pro team, so if he asks for $17+ million, I could see a trade happening.

2. This staff is the best in the NFL in finding and squeezing out the best from corners. Breeland, Ward, Fuller, Fenton, Sneed and the rookies from this year. All of them were excellent here and didn’t take long for the young guys to develop.
3. We have at least 9 draft picks. Maybe 10-11. We have more than enough ammo to draft one, or trade up for one if we so choose. We have drafted a corner every year under Spags but one, and that year was when we had 6 draft picks due to trading for Orlando Brown Jr.
4. The 3 corners did well this year. That’s a big feather in the cap having them all cheap for 3 more years. McDuffie can do a lot of what Sneed does (outside, inside, blitz). The cup would not be bare. And again…lot of draft capital.
5. The money freed up from Sneed could be used to keep someone else (Willie Gay?) or get a FA.

The case against:
1. He takes a team friendly contract.
2. We can’t get anything more than a 3rd rd pick for him in a trade.

What do you all think? If you’re Veach what’s your bottom line for money and trade compensation received?

htismaqe · 03-03-2023, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

Thuney has played great. Again, all of this stress can be solved by getting rid of the weak link on the line (I'm not counting Wylie)...he's the worst out of our OL guys and he wants by far the most money. Orlando needs to take his desire for a 25M deal to another team.

This OBJ thing is an easy choice IMO.

Every indication is that the Chiefs don't feel this way at all. OBJ will, in all likelihood, be back.

raybec 4 · 03-03-2023, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

Thuney has played great. Again, all of this stress can be solved by getting rid of the weak link on the line (I'm not counting Wylie)...he's the worst out of our OL guys and he wants by far the most money. Orlando needs to take his desire for a 25M deal to another team.

This OBJ thing is an easy choice IMO.

I just don't think the team agrees that he's not worth it. They genuinely seem to want to keep him.

mkp785 · 03-03-2023, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Every indication is that the Chiefs don't feel this way at all. OBJ will, in all likelihood, be back.

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

I just don't think the team agrees that he's not worth it. They genuinely seem to want to keep him.

I'm sure they want to keep him. I want to keep him. I don't want to do it at the cost of Snead/Jones/Creed/Smith....he's not worth all of that. I guess we'll see if Veach agrees with me, as I don't think OBJ is playing on the tag OR coming down off his desired price tag.

Chris Meck · 03-03-2023, 05:12 PM

I think a lot of you guys are sticking your heads in the sand and just flat refusing to look at reality.

Brown is not going to come off of his demands.

htismaqe · 03-03-2023, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think a lot of you guys are sticking your heads in the sand and just flat refusing to look at reality.

Brown is not going to come off of his demands.

Then the Chiefs are about to make him one of the highest paid LT's in the game, if not the highest.

He's not going anywhere.

Chris Meck · 03-03-2023, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Then the Chiefs are about to make him one of the highest paid LT's in the game, if not the highest.

He's not going anywhere.

No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

mkp785 · 03-03-2023, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

Agree 100%

I don't see a world where OBJ is making 150 or whatever with a massive chunk guaranteed here. Tyreek was and is a MUCH better player than Orlando and he got sent packing. Adding into the situation Jones, Snead, Creed and Smith all needing extensions and all of them also being much better players.

Doesn't seem like it fits Veach. I guess we'll see.

Titty Meat · 03-04-2023, 12:33 AM

Depends what the compensation would be

Chargem · 03-04-2023, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Man the more we REALLY look at the numbers, the more I think tagging and trading Brown is the way to go if at all possible.

If the goal is to compete EVERY year for a SB, I think it's the wise move. Brown is a good but not great player, and we just shouldn't overpay for that production.

This was exactly my thoughts, if I was going to do a mock for the forum this year (most years I manage one) I would be doing it on the basis of a Brown Tag and Trade... I just don't know what a realistic return is?

Chargem · 03-04-2023, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Then the Chiefs are about to make him one of the highest paid LT's in the game, if not the highest.

He's not going anywhere.

I agree this is probably the most likely outcome, even if it isn't what I would do.

It's a fascinating situation, the Chiefs clearly love Brown and Clark, but surely one or both has to go. I have no clue what will happen, there isn't even enough cap space to tag Brown currently.

Stryker · 03-04-2023, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

I agree completely!

I think there is going to be a lot of changes on our team heading into the draft. I also feel something will happen during free agency as well as after the June 1st cuts. I think Veach has a plan and it will "reshape" our team going into the 2023 season. Change is good and it is headed our way.

Titty Meat · 03-05-2023, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

The difference is you have a generational Coach/QB with a HOF tight end in which you can still make the offense work. Can you do that without a solid LT? I'd argue Brown is a top 10 LT. Sure you can draft one but that's always a crapshoot. What free agent are you going to find who can produce at a high level? I think HTIS is right with this one. Alot of people might not like it but it's too important of a position to gamble on.

htismaqe · 03-06-2023, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

You're probably going to be disappointed then.

They're not letting their starting LT walk after winning a Super Bowl.

O.city · 03-06-2023, 09:00 AM

Hill is a better WR than Brown is a LT. We all agree.

But that's just not the way this should be viewed in my opinion. It's so much easier to find WR's, as they showed this year.

We saw in 2020 what can happen when the LT spot falls apart.

htismaqe · 03-06-2023, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Hill is a better WR than Brown is a LT. We all agree.

But that's just not the way this should be viewed in my opinion. It's so much easier to find WR's, as they showed this year.

We saw in 2020 what can happen when the LT spot falls apart.

Exactly.

In this case, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1590389	Possibility of trading L’Jarius Sneed As we know, crow successfully called the Tyreek trade last year before it happened with a good thread discussion. This year I think our most likely trade piece could be L’Jarius Sneed. To preface this, I would like to keep him at a fair deal. However, bidness is bidness sometimes. Let’s examine the cases. Case for trading: 1. He could ask for too much. He has never made the pro bowl or all pro team, so if he asks for $17+ million, I could see a trade happening. 2. This staff is the best in the NFL in finding and squeezing out the best from corners. Breeland, Ward, Fuller, Fenton, Sneed and the rookies from this year. All of them were excellent here and didn’t take long for the young guys to develop. 3. We have at least 9 draft picks. Maybe 10-11. We have more than enough ammo to draft one, or trade up for one if we so choose. We have drafted a corner every year under Spags but one, and that year was when we had 6 draft picks due to trading for Orlando Brown Jr. 4. The 3 corners did well this year. That’s a big feather in the cap having them all cheap for 3 more years. McDuffie can do a lot of what Sneed does (outside, inside, blitz). The cup would not be bare. And again…lot of draft capital. 5. The money freed up from Sneed could be used to keep someone else (Willie Gay?) or get a FA. The case against: 1. He takes a team friendly contract. 2. We can’t get anything more than a 3rd rd pick for him in a trade. What do you all think? If you’re Veach what’s your bottom line for money and trade compensation received?
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-685936	Hill is a better WR than Brown is a LT. We all agree. But that's just not the way this should be viewed in my opinion. It's so much easier to find WR's, as they showed this year. We saw in 2020 what can happen when the LT spot falls apart.
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