WR Deandre Hopkins?

[Couch-Potato]

I saw a few articles suggesting that the Cardinals might trade Deandre Hopkins this offseason. They've only won 4 games this year, might need to cash in and rebuild. Many believe he'd end up in NE after Bill Belichick flirted with him on the sidelines recently, but I'm wondering if he wants to play for a winning team at some point in his career. Others, like the Giants are speculating he could be had for a 2nd RD pick, which means if we were interested it would likely cost us a 2nd + an additional pick.

Hopkins contract salary is for $19.5m & $15m over the next two years, even if you paid JuJu $20m you'd still only be paying $10m more than Tyreek's contract for both. Hopkins missed 6 games, and JuJu has missed 1, but JuJu is only 160 yards ahead of Hopkins, both with 3 TDS and 11 yards per catch, so he hasn't lost a step. Hopkins also plays on the outside, and we could really use a tall outside WR, plus he's a phenomenal deep threat.

I think it'd be really interesting to explore a Deandre Hopkins trade this offseason with all those extra picks, for maybe a 2nd & 5th(?), to hopefully pair him with JuJu. Let Hardman, Watson AND MVS ($8.5m next year & $11.5m the following) walk.

Imagine rolling that Tyreek trade into the greatest passing attack we've ever had, and then blowing THAT offense out of the water the following year!

TE Kelce - Stalwart Goat TE
WR Hopkins - Tall Star Outside Deep Threat
WR JuJu - Big & Tall Slot Star
WR Toney - Fast & Crazy Agile Gadget / Returner
WR Moore - Chain Mover, grows into highly reliable route runner & pass catcher
WR Ross - Surprise Talent, has 2 year to learn from Hopkins
WR Rookie - New Blood

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Let's play a game that's theoretically possible but won't happen:

Say we draft Mazi Smith in round 1. Which I don't think happens with a Jones extension.

Round 2 you grab a EDGE I think there's several there to choose from (not likely you pay Jones, Draft a DT round 1, with last year's pick a 1st rounder)

Trade a 4 & 6th for Hopkins

You have arguably an elite defensive line, one of the better Linenacker duos in the league, with a battle tested young secondary in which you can build more depth because you still have several picks left.

Oh and an offense with a top 10 WR, A top 5 TE of all time, Top 5 HOF QB of all time, and an emerging RB in Pacheco with one of the best offensive lines in the league and 1 of the greatest coaches of all time.

How much are you paying Hopkins?

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Let's play a game that's theoretically possible but won't happen:

Say we draft Mazi Smith in round 1. Which I don't think happens with a Jones extension.

Round 2 you grab a EDGE I think there's several there to choose from (not likely you pay Jones, Draft a DT round 1, with last year's pick a 1st rounder)

Trade a 4 & 6th for Hopkins

You have arguably an elite defensive line, one of the better Linenacker duos in the league, with a battle tested young secondary in which you can build more depth because you still have several picks left.

Oh and an offense with a top 10 WR, A top 5 TE of all time, Top 5 HOF QB of all time, and an emerging RB in Pacheco with one of the best offensive lines in the league and 1 of the greatest coaches of all time.

Yes! I would be stoked for Breese or Mazi in RD 1 and a DE, maybe Tuipolutu, Hall, or Carter in RD 2, but I think you'd probably have to move a 3rd + conditional 2024 pick to get Hopkins. Use our 4th rounders on a RT and a Safety to compete for spots and play ball! This is what I want, currently. Let's go!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=347383

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

How much are you paying Hopkins?

He implied that he'd play on his current contract with the Chiefs.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

He implied that he'd play on his current contract with the Chiefs.

I haven't seen that. Could you bring it up so I could see it?

I saw him say on the Pat McAfee show that he had hired an agent so he wouldn't get the short end of the stick this time. I could probably find a youtube video of him saying it. But it begs the question. If his last deal is the short end of the stick, why would he play on it? Which I would also add in the question is nearly 20 million per year the short end of the stick? Sheesh...

I think he wants new deal, with more guaranteed money and more money per year based off the statements I have heard from him.

But only him and his agent knows what he wants.

[farmerchief]

Originally Posted by Bowser

The plus side of any receiver coming to KC - Mahomes and Andy with a shot at the title.

Can Hopkins play second fiddle to a tight end? Maybe? I feel Gallup or Golladay could, but I wonder if DHop would be ok with lesser numbers than he's used to putting up*.

I’m afraid, if he’s healthy to play, he would become disgruntled, if he did not see enough passes headed his direction. After awhile, he would become a distraction, imo.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

I haven't seen that. Could you bring it up so I could see it?

I saw him say on the Pat McAfee show that he had hired an agent so he wouldn't get the short end of the stick this time. I could probably find a youtube video of him saying it. But it begs the question. If his last deal is the short end of the stick, why would he play on it? Which I would also add in the question is nearly 20 million per year the short end of the stick? Sheesh...

I think he wants new deal, with more guaranteed money and more money per year based off the statements I have heard from him.

But only him and his agent knows what he wants.

Here it is: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ed/ar-AA18nM7z

Add that to him making a comment on Pat's shows that he's excited about some of the team names being associated with his trade rumors (assuming that's the Chiefs) and it does feel like he'd be willing to play his contact out here.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Here it is: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ed/ar-AA18nM7z

Add that to him making a comment on Pat's shows that he's excited about some of the team names being associated with his trade rumors (assuming that's the Chiefs) and it does feel like he'd be willing to play his contact out here.

I'm not having a lot of confidence that him saying will be flexible that he would take a lesser, or even play on the same deal to be with the Chiefs. That sounds like a pretty vague statement to me that could allow him many pathways to negotiation.

I'm of the belief that money talks and bullshit walks.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Add that to him making a comment on Pat's shows that he's excited about some of the team names being associated with his trade rumors (assuming that's the Chiefs) and it does feel like he'd be willing to play his contact out here.

Could be he is excited to get into Jerry Jones pocket?

[Titty Meat]

It's been reported Pats phone has been blowing up he's probably on Pat's line

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

It's been reported Pats phone has been blowing up he's probably on Pat's line

I like the way you think Titty Meat!

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

Could be he is excited to get into Jerry Jones pocket?

Pesimist!

[Abba-Dabba]

Looking at that statement of being more flexible in it's full context. He is talking about being flexible in not taking a top of the market deal. So 27-30 million is top of the market. He will make nearly 20 million aav the next 2 years, so lets split the difference between the 2 and assume that is what he wants. Does that seem reasonable? Does 24 million per year sound reasonable to you to pay Hopkins?

[chiefforlife]

Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

Looking at that statement of being more flexible in it's full context. He is talking about being flexible in not taking a top of the market deal. So 27-30 million is top of the market. He will make nearly 20 million aav the next 2 years, so lets split the difference between the 2 and assume that is what he wants. Does that seem reasonable? Does 24 million per year sound reasonable to you to pay Hopkins?

I think he is being a bit vague because it will depend on where he goes.

He wants to WIN! If he goes to the Chiefs, he will make it work.

If he goes to a shit team, he will want the money!

Sounds reasonable to me...

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I think he is being a bit vague because it will depend on where he goes.

He wants to WIN! If he goes to the Chiefs, he will make it work.

If he goes to a shit team, he will want the money!

Sounds reasonable to me...

Sounds like he wants money regardless.

[Titty Meat]

Whatever he wants is irrelevant I don't see how a team would trade + extend him for the money he wants at his age. If the compensation is met it comes down to would he want to stay in AZ or not?