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Old 03-16-2023, 01:15 PM   #11
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Hey, I liked Gibbs as a possible 3rd rounder based on nothing BUT watching him. I took your word on him being a probable 2nd rounder and crossed him off.

Taking him in the 1st is the kind of arrogance that eventually undid the Martz era Rams. Convert guys, chase luxury items, eventually watch your roster crumble as your primary skill position players age out.

I "think" I've only ever said that he's probably a very high 2nd. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure about that.

A good portion of the draft guys out there have him around 20-24 in their player rankings though.

I can take the criticism on the basis of what you have there in regard to Martz.



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Just checking in here to see the picks and uh. Damn. I love
Ya crow but what the ****.

Seriously what in the ****?!
I think I probably should have explained the pick better? Everyone is hung up on RB, honestly. That's what they see and just say ****ing RB and don't care about the rest of it. Then, many of the same people that criticize the idea or pick also love Deebo Samuel. And even those that don't mind a RB and always scream to trade for Alvin Kamara hate on the pick.

And maybe nobody sees him as the player I do. Gibbs is a phenomenal receiver and he didn't just run RB routes. He got split out and played actual WR at times. He's a really, really good receiver.

Everyone on this forum knows I preach not to take a RB in round 1. I'm not taking a RB in my eyes. I'm taking a guy that's going to be an easy convert to WR but retains the versatility to flex in when there's a matchup to exploit in a similar way to Deebo. Imagine having a guy that can play slot WR, Z WR and McKinnon's role out of the backfield? You can just move him around and create matchups.

What I like so much about Gibbs that really sets him apart from these other options at "WR" is his fluidity and slipperiness in space and that instant acceleration. He's also simply built thicker than most short WRs.

And then he's fast. He's 4.36 fast. There are only two faster skill players in this draft: Devon Achane and Trey Palmer. Gibbs is a little bigger, a little longer, shifter, bigger mitts than Achane and I think he's a better receiver. Palmer is a bit unreliable with his hands and nowhere near as shifty. So you're getting the speed to go with that fluidity and agility in space.

If you can envision a faster version of Deebo, you should love this idea. I just don't think people can get past the fact that he played RB.

And then look at the Chiefs... McKinnon had 56 catches for 512 yards and 9 TDs last year while only running 72 times for 291 yards. McKinnon was a HUGE part of the passing game. Gibbs projects as an even better player out of the backfield and a runner that's more like Jamaal Charles. In college, Gibbs averaged 34 catches and 404 yards receiving. Imagine if you never had to take Gibbs off the field because he can slide between the slot and McKinnon's backfield role? He could effectively replace Hardman and McKinnon in one pick. Give him 80 receptions a season like Kamara got his first few years in the league and I'd bet he outproduces Kamara because he's simply faster and more agile.

And that's where I rebut what DJ presents with the conversion history of Martz. He makes a fair point, but this is a player I think you can use as a versatile weapon that can absolutely house it on any play. He's that good. I think he's going to be a special, special player. If he's there at 31, which I doubt more if Ekeler gets traded, then I'd absolutely champion KC picking this kid. I really don't think he'd be a "luxury pick." There are a lot of touches available for a guy like this regardless of what position he ends up being labeled. He'd run it a little and catch it a lot at the end of the day and that might account for 1/6th of the production of the offense.

Anyhow, that's my rant on how I see it and why I see it. If he's not the pick, then may he suck alot of dick wherever he goes, hahaha.
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