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Old 03-18-2023, 12:08 AM   #1
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I definitely think veach has something brewing.
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Old 03-18-2023, 12:05 AM   #2
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I definitely think veach has something brewing.

For some reason i keep coming back to michael pittman. He doesnt fit the speed characteristics, but he has elite size and has performed well in dumpster fire indy.

He is at the end of his contract and indy is rebuilding.


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I like Pittman, but I’m not sure he has the toolbox Veach likes to go for. Pittman is a 4.5 guy.

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4.2-low 4.4 guys

Veach wants a guy that can threaten the top of the defense while being able to exploit the underneath stuff, as well.
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Old 03-18-2023, 12:11 AM   #3
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I like Pittman, but I’m not sure he has the toolbox Veach likes to go for. Pittman is a 4.5 guy.

Hill
Hardman
Toney
MVS
Skyy

4.2-low 4.4 guys

Veach wants a guy that can threaten the top of the defense while being able to exploit the underneath stuff, as well.

I agree completely.

Its just a name that i keep thinking about as available and not super high comp required that could round out the wr room here.

Also of note, juju had a mid 4.5 40 too and the chiefs pursued him two years in a row.


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Old 03-18-2023, 12:16 AM   #4
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I don’t think Bosa or Jefferson are realistic at all. Those are the guys you keep, the same way we keep Chris Jones.

When we think about the biggest punches Veach has thrown, only the Frank Clark and Mahomes (Dorsey, yeah yeah…) fall into that bucket as far as punches “landed.” He did swing mightily at Trent Williams but that didn’t work out (thank God).

I don’t think he is too shy to be aggressive AF if is at a critical position - QB, LT, DE. I’m not so sure he makes a swing like that for a WR, though next year targeting Marvin Harrison Jr would be a WR possibly worth swinging for.

Clark is the only player Veach has used high picks and lots of cap on simultaneously. I wonder if he feels burned by that, or if he has learned to be more discerning.

I don’t know that there’s a player in this class that we go up to 10-15 for. The 3rd OT? The 4th DE? I just dunno.
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Old 03-18-2023, 12:21 AM   #5
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Clark is the only player Veach has used high picks and lots of cap on simultaneously. I wonder if he feels burned by that, or if he has learned to be more discerning.
You are very intuitive to think he felt like he violated the "Bellichek Rule" of going after high priced FAs. Yes it seems Frank showed up in the playoffs but over all ? I think Veach would tell us he would not do a deal like this again.
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Old 03-18-2023, 12:23 AM   #6
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I don't think they make a major move, but I do see something like the Hopkins trade or a similar move that nobody sees coming.

I can also see them being very aggressive in the draft.
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Old 03-18-2023, 03:23 AM   #7
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I don't think they make a major move, but I do see something like the Hopkins trade or a similar move that nobody sees coming.

I can also see them being very aggressive in the draft.
I think aggressive in the draft is the most likely option.
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Old 03-18-2023, 06:34 AM   #8
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I think the big move is a draft day trade, did anyone notice that the FA’s the Chiefs sign are from teams they played last year?
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Old 03-18-2023, 07:12 AM   #9
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I think the big move is a draft day trade, did anyone notice that the FA’s the Chiefs sign are from teams they played last year?
And they were all playoff teams at that.
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I really don't think he'll trade for any player unless it's a day 3 pick. Half of the guys in the OP would require multiple 1st round picks and big contracts and the rest would require at least a 1st and a big contract. There is always a non-zero chance but it's an extremely slim one.

I do think he could be aggressive in the draft under the right circumstances. I think that those right circumstances are a left tackle is within his comfortable range, wherever that may be in the top 20, or an offensive weapon or edge is in the mid-20s that he wants.

Taylor was careful with his words in his presser about saying that he would play wherever he's needed to help this team win, whether that be on the left or right. His remaining non-committal makes me think Veach would go up for the right price.
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Old 03-18-2023, 06:28 AM   #14
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I think they’re going to go full NE, not put all the eggs in one basket but keep signing guys like Edwards and tranquil who are young and still ascending player. Extra chess pieces for his offensive and defensive masterminds to play with. It’s not sexy but you can’t deny we don’t have the chess masters to make it all work.
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The roster is pretty solid. I don't think all the draft picks could possibly make the roster, so we probably make some type of move. I'd even be okay with trading picks for next year's draft if the premium was decent. We're in dynasty mode.
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